Creation Point Discussion

[nalkin]

Any type of melee or any hybrid should put all points into stam regardless of how "hardcore" they plan on being. Pretty much the only classes that shouldn't put all points into stamina are mage, wizard, druid, and maybe enchanter. Mage it doesn't matter at all where you put you points.

[Bassracerx]

when i made my rouge i was thinking "this is classic eq wich is really hard and theres no uber buffs so hitpoints are a great thing to have" *dumps 20 points into stamina*

at lower levels with the damage caps there really is no use for strength you can get an uber str buff and see a very negligable dps increase if you have a decent weapon. and then in the mid levels 15 str is not that much of a dps increase either and it will soon be maxed with buffs anyways at the high levels like you said.

[Bassracerx]

monks should put all into str becasue they are so squishy anyways 100hp at lvl 60 most likely wont save them much.

they could go agility/dex tho to get more blocks/riptose/parrys/dodge

ranges should go all stamina tho those bastards allways die .. second thought dont make a ranger

[Bassracerx]

also dont see the point of even bothering with int most of the time. on my darkelf mage i put 25 into int but im allways below 50percent mana and my mana regens as fast as evryone else who is my level so what is the point of having the other 50% other then its good to have when you do have it but usually you dont

[Quasimojo]

Originally Posted by Bassracerx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

also dont see the point of even bothering with int most of the time. on my darkelf mage i put 25 into int but im allways below 50percent mana and my mana regens as fast as evryone else who is my level so what is the point of having the other 50% other then its good to have when you do have it but usually you dont

Exactly. That extra mana only benefits you on the first fight after medding to full. Extra HP is always there for when the mobs go squishy hunting.

[nalkin]

Originally Posted by Quasimojo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exactly. That extra mana only benefits you on the first fight after medding to full. Extra HP is always there for when the mobs go squishy hunting.

Except that the sta->hp return for int casters is horrible and constitutes like 1/8th of a hit from a mob at 50. I also agree that the extra mana is almost useless as well (since regen is not dependent on amount) which is why for a mage it makes no difference where you put your points.

For a fighter or hybrid though, definitely go stamina.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by nalkin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except that the sta->hp return for int casters is horrible and constitutes like 1/8th of a hit from a mob at 50. I also agree that the extra mana is almost useless as well (since regen is not dependent on amount) which is why for a mage it makes no difference where you put your points.

For a fighter or hybrid though, definitely go stamina.

Side note - Erudites are below the 75 agi bottom level by default, so it's worth it to put 5 points into that, then pump the rest into int.

Casters are in a different situation, since you can replace int gear with mana gear quite readily - as much int as possible is a good thing.

Although, as has already been mentioned, it only increases the size of your fuel tank, not the speed at which you replenish it. Regardless, i've found having a bigger fuel tank (and extra + hp gear for survivability, esp at lower levels before quadding comes into play) invaluable as a wizard, since it's all you've got...

[porigromus]

Shaman, Wis or Stam starting stats? You get more for your money with every Wis point. Also I was thinking if you put your points in Wis, you would have more opportunity to get AC/HP/+Mana items instead of Wis items.

Any thoughts?

[Mardur]

If you have to question it you might not want to go shaman.

But the answer is stamina. Mana pool becomes irrelevant at the high end.

[porigromus]

Originally Posted by Mardur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you have to question it you might not want to go shaman.

But the answer is stamina. Mana pool becomes irrelevant at the high end.

I understand that canni uses hp to regain mana and I am not trying to be smart. Do you believe that this class in particular is more difficult than others? Is this why you suggest if I ask this question I may should go for a different class?