Einstein or Newton

[Angushjalmur]

Originally Posted by big_ole_jpn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if the govt and big battery (duracell etc) hadnt suppressed tesla we would had shape shifting liquid metal sex bots by 1980

Gotta keep the energy racket going though. There's too much money to be made there

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Einstein said his religion was science.

Yeah, and mine is skepticism.

Neither has anything to do with faith ^^

[Baler]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, and mine is skepticism.

Neither has anything to do with faith ^^

You've taken the time to prove it's true. You don't just take the words of people you've never met and believe it on faith.

My whole point was that most people believe what they're told. They don't go out and try to prove it themselves. That's all.

Faith -complete trust or confidence in someone or something.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by big_ole_jpn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if the govt and big battery (duracell etc) hadnt suppressed tesla we would had shape shifting liquid metal sex bots by 1980

So instead of steel tentacle monsters we got shake weights?

[Angushjalmur]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You've taken the time to prove it's true. You don't just take the words of people you've never met and believe it on faith.

My whole point was that most people believe what they're told. They don't go out and try to prove it themselves. That's all.

I'm busy building a large hadron collider in my back yard because dinosaur bones were put here by the devil to trick us

[mgellan]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is insane, you fool. I'm a fool because I have more faith in the saints that wrote the Bible?

Look at the front page of your Bible. It will probably say that the authors are not known. The "saints" didn't write the Bible, no one knows who wrote it. The version you're reading is likely the result of many many people who freely changed things to match their own needs. Read some Bart Ehrman for more info.

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Science is a religion.

Science is a tool by which we learn more about the universe. It's a method. It's been proven to be effective. What we create with it are increasingly accurate models of the Universe, that enables us to create technologies based on what we learn. People accept that science works, and can accept the accuracy of what the scientific consensus is because it's a consensus that arises from many people being able to replicate the results. You can have a high level of confidence in science because you have TVs, and computers, and cell phones that are all results of the scientific process. People who are educated understand that you need to apply critical thinking to science just like everything else - one study is not a reason to accept the conclusions. But centuries of tests all confirming that a single hypothesis is accurate means not at least provisionally accepting it is foolish.

Religion is based on faith, which means "the reasons we believe stuff that we can't prove is true." Religion is a mindvirus that propagates through indoctrination, colonialism, and intimidation. It has some benefits to adherents as far as community but they can readily be realized without the dogma. It allows no proof or even refutation, produces no technologies, has no predictive power, and emphasizes anti-intellectualism, frowning on inquiry and questioning.

Science is nothing like a religion.

Regards,
Mg

[Baler]

Why are you all so convince that I'm talking about 'god(s)'?
I never once said that.

Stop putting words in my posts.

Newton and Einstein took time to prove what they believed. like I said before, that's all im saying jeez.

[Angushjalmur]

saints dont worship dolphins it was kind of implied

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You've taken the time to prove it's true. You don't just take the words of people you've never met and believe it on faith.

My whole point was that most people believe what they're told. They don't go out and try to prove it themselves. That's all.

Yeah and I think we in agreement on that part ^^

Faith -complete trust or confidence in someone or something.

Yep^^ and aside from a basic acceptance of reality allowing us to operate within it, that is always a dangerous thing.

[mgellan]

Originally Posted by big_ole_jpn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

we already determined the ferocity of science claims when hitler used it to justify exterminating 6 million innocent people to make a "master race". not sure what is left to determine.

Hitler was a Catholic who believed the Jews killed Christ and deserved to be destroyed because of it. At best he was a Deist:

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."

"His [the Jewish person's] life is only of this world, and his spirit is inwardly as alien to true Christianity as his nature two thousand years previous was to the great founder of the new doctrine. Of course, the latter made no secret of his attitude toward the Jewish people, and when necessary he even took to the whip to drive from the temple of the Lord this adversary of all humanity, who then as always saw in religion nothing but an instrument for his business existence. In return, Christ was nailed to the cross, while our present-day party Christians debase themselves to begging for Jewish votes at elections and later try to arrange political swindles with atheistic Jewish parties—and this against their own nation."

Calling what the Nazis did as the result of Science is ridiculous.

Regards,
Mg