Need before greed in pickup groups?

[Ele]

Originally Posted by soup [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This also brings up the fact that NBG doesn't get rid of greed, since people can (and do) claim need just to get an item to sell it. Letting everyone roll makes it fair.

I've seen far too many times people taking an item off or transfering to an alt before going to a camp for a lore item or claiming that the item is a "loaner" from a friend.

Again this applies almost 100% to PUGs, if it is a guild/friend group then NGB all the way.

[Slathar]

need before greed? hahahaha no, never. unless you're my friend, everything is getting randomed by everyone.

[Torqumada286]

I remember years ago on live that I was playing in a PUG in Skyfire ad we hashed out the rules. I prefer NBG, because that is just my nature, but was outvoted by the group that we would random everything. The first item to drop was the monk epic quest item, the book of Immortals. and I was playing my monk. The entire party basically said "Sorry, but we're going to random this." I didn't win the roll, the necromancer did. Basically he spent the next hour waving the fact that he had won the item and how much he was going to get for selling it. (I guess he didn't notice the No Drop part of the item description) This was right up to the moment the 56th level Necromancer Pet dropped. Then he was all for NBG and implored the party to allow him to loot it. I argued again with the party that they said that everything was to be done by random and that we needed to be consistent. So we rolled...and I won. The necro suddenly wanted to make a trade. I calmly informed him that the item he insisted that he could roll on was a No Drop and he was stuck with it, and that I was sure I could sell the spell for a few plat. He said he would buy it off of me. I told him that the spell would cost him 50K platinum. He ragequit the party after that, shouting out to the zone that melee characters should never be allowed to roll on spells. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A couple of days later I gave the spell to a guildmate necro who needed it.[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Torqumada

[Icaro]

Originally Posted by Torqumada286 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I remember years ago on live that I was playing in a PUG in Skyfire ad we hashed out the rules. I prefer NBG, because that is just my nature, but was outvoted by the group that we would random everything. The first item to drop was the monk epic quest item, the book of Immortals. and I was playing my monk. The entire party basically said "Sorry, but we're going to random this." I didn't win the roll, the necromancer did. Basically he spent the next hour waving the fact that he had won the item and how much he was going to get for selling it. (I guess he didn't notice the No Drop part of the item description) This was right up to the moment the 56th level Necromancer Pet dropped. Then he was all for NBG and implored the party to allow him to loot it. I argued again with the party that they said that everything was to be done by random and that we needed to be consistent. So we rolled...and I won. The necro suddenly wanted to make a trade. I calmly informed him that the item he insisted that he could roll on was a No Drop and he was stuck with it, and that I was sure I could sell the spell for a few plat. He said he would buy it off of me. I told him that the spell would cost him 50K platinum. He ragequit the party after that, shouting out to the zone that melee characters should never be allowed to roll on spells. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A couple of days later I gave the spell to a guildmate necro who needed it.[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Torqumada

Great story!

Apparently, there is a relation between being selfish and the class you choose.

NB4G FTW!

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by Icaro [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Great story!

Apparently, there is a relation between being selfish and the class you choose.

NB4G FTW!

Everyone in this game is selfish. No one plays this game strictly for other people.

Non-selfish people are probably doing something other than EQ.

[soup]

Calling it "need before greed" is sort of ironic. Expecting to just be able to take something you want without anyone else getting a shot at it despite putting in the same effort you did sounds like greed to me.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Originally Posted by Myrkskog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've been in groups that work both ways on this server.

I've also seen people on this server who have need rolled for an item just to sell it in EC a few hours later.

As someone said, 1 fungi tunic can buy a lot of caster shit. I'm pro greed, and it eliminates the bullshit element.

Sometimes we'd do it like this on live. Everyone, regardless of class, is eligible to roll on items such as the Fungi Tunic, but in order to be eligible to roll a person has to have been in the group for a minimum amount of time.

This. Mainly the bullshit factor. MY first experience with NBG here was a group in Highpass. Some DE warrior? won a shralok pack, citing his heavy armor as need. Myself, as a young monk wanted to, protest, but eh, he had a point. A few hours later he was selling it in EC. What was that name.. Chtulu?

[Trackflare]

I'm all for NBG, if it is a legitimate upgrade for your toon that is currently in the party, then by all means, take it

If you could use it on an alt, then we can discuss in the group at the time on a case by case scenario

Other than that. If noone else is needing it, then random away

[Pyrocat]

NBG unless the item is worth over 3k

[Droxx]

I prefer NBG. If someone in group needs it and we greed roll it, I somehow always end up winning and giving it to whoever needs it in the group anyway!