2 and 1/5 Month Raid Ban

[Tupakk]

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think using the red server serves as appropriate evidence - red server was never a traffic driver to these forums or to the project in general.

If blue's average nightly population is ~1200 as someone above me claims, then suddenly drops to ~600 over the next few months and a bulk of those exiting players cite heavy-handed abuse from staff as the reason, it would be reasonable to expect Admins to change up their staff or policies.

But then again, nothing on P99 reflects any semblance of reason, so...

It hits 1200 with bots and boxers.

I’d say single box is in the high 900s

[gredoo]

Originally Posted by Tupakk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It hits 1200 with bots and boxers.

I’d say single box is in the high 900s

Got any proof to back up that claim?

[wagorf]

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think using the red server serves as appropriate evidence - red server was never a traffic driver to these forums or to the project in general.

If blue's average nightly population is ~1200 as someone above me claims, then suddenly drops to ~600 over the next few months and a bulk of those exiting players cite heavy-handed abuse from staff as the reason, it would be reasonable to expect Admins to change up their staff or policies.

But then again, nothing on P99 reflects any semblance of reason, so...

F that, so what if the peak drops to 600. So what if it drops to 300. This is a free server you are not paying shit to keep this going. Play it or leave it, the popularity of the server is none of your concern.

your stupid reasoning to expect change in rules cuz population drops, play on live and pay the fee, or stfu and follow the rules if you want to be cheap to play on free severs.

[Arkanjil]

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Until you stop logging in, nothing will change...

Nothing will change either way :P

[tesaria]

Originally Posted by Docx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know I’m super casual now and don’t keep up with much of anything anymore, but common sense has to be taken into account. Am I being told that because I l have access to a ranger tracker in fear tagged tempest, I could log onto that character and cause a guild I have no affiliation with an extension on a future ban they will inevitably receive? Really?

By the current standard being held on <Core>, Yes. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]....Still waiting for those updated pulling standards for non stall/kite since pulling a raid mob directly to your camp and tanking it to death is now an offence.

[Rygar]

Originally Posted by tesaria [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

By the current standard being held on <Core>, Yes. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]....Still waiting for those updated pulling standards for non stall/kite since pulling a raid mob directly to your camp and tanking it to death is now an offence.

I was just thinking about this, people so focused on the extensions when the initial ban seemed questionable (i admittedly don't know full details, but almost everyone involved claimed it was legit and straight forward pull / kill. With video and logs ). I would like to hear details on the kite / stall evidence from staff, who knows, maybe some shenanigans we don't know about.

Meanwhile statue trains and vulak trains going down on other guild engages, haven't seen anything as a result.

I can honestly understand other 2 extensions... don't give out account info, period. Shared accounts will get you in trouble eventually. IP trace may not tell the whole story and I'm sure there could be some way to always cry foul on it and try to use it to weasel out of a suspension.

The PoA thing just looks confusing given 2 contradicting statements in the rules section, i think mercy should be shown for that and clean up the wording. Spirit of the rules and all.

[tesaria]

Originally Posted by Rygar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

IP trace may not tell the whole story and I'm sure there could be some way to always cry foul on it and try to use it to weasel out of a suspension.

It was Live-Streamed on Twitch for 4 hours....https://www.twitch.tv/videos/301935559

[Foxplay]

Originally Posted by Rygar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can honestly understand other 2 extensions... don't give out account info, period. Shared accounts will get you in trouble eventually. IP trace may not tell the whole story and I'm sure there could be some way to always cry foul on it and try to use it to weasel out of a suspension.

This.

To expect the small server staff to play detective and track down the PERSON and not the CHARACTER is quite a lot to ask. You are still responsible for actions of your characters if you give out your login information. Is it possible? Yes IP traces and probably more that I don't have a full understanding of exist, but it's just more work and steps the GM's would have to deal with which is pretty unfair to hold them against.

[Ghostly]

So this most recent extension was so intense because there were 2 extensions prior to this and someone "needed to learn"... But the 2 extensions prior were caused by another guild blatantly trying to fuck over Core?

Makes sense.

I'm excited to see how many people get forum bans after this topic.

[Zutizutzut]

Originally Posted by Ghostly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So this most recent extension was so intense because there were 2 extensions prior to this and someone "needed to learn"... But the 2 extensions prior were caused by another guild blatantly trying to fuck over Core?

Makes sense.

I'm excited to see how many people get forum bans after this topic.

I don't think anyone in Core assumes that either non-guild member was trying to screw us over...even the Tempest member. In the Tempest members case, the toon they logged into wasn't even Core tagged the day they logged it in so they may not have been aware it would cause an issue.