SK epic vs other weapons, worth?

[Velthak]

Iksar

[Velthak]

Just be prepared to get a taste of this server's armpit by attempting to loot a Soul Leech. Just buy the MQ and save some brain cells.

[Octopath]

Originally Posted by Velthak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Iksar

So if Playing a non iksar, do you think a fungi would be necessary?

[Velthak]

No. The procs for Inny's Curse, Zealot's Incarnadine Sword, and Vampiric Curse all stack. They all share the same spell slot if you manage to get all three going at once. Also, innate iksar regen is really only beneficial during med time. I never tried a fungi in conjunction with the epic proc but it's probably pretty OP. Only benefit to rolling non iksar is having the blood ember greaves, which gives you another FD that's on a different timer. I won't argue the ac/frontal stun immunity debate for what is the best race. Did it suck not being able to use certain gear? Yes. Did it really matter? No. Do you and leave the parsing/min/max for the turd burglars.

[Sonderbeast]

Originally Posted by Velthak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No. The procs for Inny's Curse, Zealot's Incarnadine Sword, and Vampiric Curse all stack. They all share the same spell slot if you manage to get all three going at once. Also, innate iksar regen is really only beneficial during med time. I never tried a fungi in conjunction with the epic proc but it's probably pretty OP. Only benefit to rolling non iksar is having the blood ember greaves, which gives you another FD that's on a different timer. I won't argue the ac/frontal stun immunity debate for what is the best race. Did it suck not being able to use certain gear? Yes. Did it really matter? No. Do you and leave the parsing/min/max for the turd burglars.

In a completely douchey way Velthak finds a way to say exactly what I said 3 pages earlier. Thanks buddy. Nice BP.

[Brut]

Only things better than epic are vulak axe, yeli /lady m swords. Worth it if those are out of reach.

Server is in a permanent state of velious, just get your dps gear, it's still some extra damage on the mobs you hit.

[elwing]

As brut said, through from the pure dps point of view the triplets already drops some upgrade but none are as practical as epic...
Narandi is nowhere near epic, it's dps is much lower, even when it will have the upgraded damage it will still fall behind epic due to the piercing penality... The proc is much worst, the stat are not as good, then there's the resist... But for only 20k it's an interesting pre-epic weapon...

[Rygar]

Here are some actual parsed numbers (consistent control tests) on a level 60 mob in WL (this is in era live data, before Luclin, not P99):
http://web.archive.org/web/200112240...c&f=6&t=004872

Note that the mist panther on live back then was a wimp and had low max hit and low ac, and had like TONS of HP so was good to run long parses on.

Test conditions: Level 60 paladin with 255sr and zero item or spell haste vs mist panther in wakening land.

Offensive tests:

Test 1 - Pre-upgrade palladius axe of suck (40/42) no buffs

high 190
average 95
low 24
dpm: 1101
dps: 18
Hit %: 43

Test 2 - Post upgrade Palladius axe of not-near-what-it-was-on-test unbuffed

high 253
average 108
low 41
proc 2 out of 53
dpm: 1635
dps: 27.3
hit %: 53

Test 2 - Palladius axe + avatar

high 299 (max is 325 fyi)
average 163
low 39
proc: 2 of 78
dpm: 2319
dps: 38.7
hit %: 53

Test 3 - Dawncaller (24/22 1hs) no buffs
high 127
average 58
low 15
dpm: 1545
dps: 25.6
hit %: 54

I will say, there isn't many details on the offensive test, the link wasn't working to the original post. Not sure if they were attacking the back vs. tanking the mob (in which case pure DPS / hit % would be higher).

So for argument sake with paladin max haste buffed the DPS numbers above would double. However, on P99 raid mobs with super high AC expect these numbers to be in the toilet.

Funny that ranger with Vulak/Primal weapons and 40% haste is, by my rough calculations (removing the haste... which is actually dividing the DPS by 1.2, not 1.4. 100% haste will turn a 50 delay weapon into a 25 delay weapon), only 7 DPS ahead of a paladin with Vulak Axe (It looked like axe only proc'd 2 out of 70 swings too?).

60 ranger, also with a Vulak weapon.

quote:
40% haste, 1448 atk, 255 str, Tolan's Longsword of the Glade: 15/21, Primal Velium Warsword: 13/20.
Time: 5 minutes

Hit: 353
Miss: 253
Max: 97
Min: 3
Average: 47
Damage: 16,464
Damage Per Min: 3,293
Hit Percent: 58.25%


(that's 54.88 dps)

Obviously disciplines were not in place, but kind of interesting to see. I also found it interesting that the Vulak Axe did not register a single max hit of 325 on that parse (which I assume was like 3+ minutes based on number of hits).

[Kaedain]

Tunare sword is garbage ?? Or just never going to drop ?

[Velthak]

Originally Posted by Sonderbeast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In a completely douchey way Velthak finds a way to say exactly what I said 3 pages earlier. Thanks buddy. Nice BP.

(sorry you take this game too seriously)