Popular Camp Rules On Non Lore Drops

[cd288]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're clearly confused: there is no "current system" (vs. anything). Derubael's comment (the one that this whole entire thread is about) is not some new change to the rules ... it's a quote from 2014!

There's no "new and old" systems, but what I think is confusing you is that there is a "fantasy system that exists only in the minds of forum elf lawyers" vs. "what the GMs actually do in the game". The "current system" (of the GMs abiding by the PnP, but otherwise doing what they feel is best in-game) has been the exact same since even before 2014.

I think you’re pretty confused. I never said there was any other system. I was saying how it’s been done (and is still done - hence the word “currently”) is better than this discussion about having people have to leave a camp of a piece of gear drops

[Snortles Chortles]

Why are you giving credence to anything Derubael said? I wasn’t aware a banned GM’s rulings account for anything in 2020.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Snortles Chortles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why are you giving credence to anything Derubael said? I wasn’t aware a banned GM’s rulings account for anything in 2020.

GM Derubael was a great GM, who also was a flawed individual who made a major mistake that betrayed the community. But making a mistake does not invalidate all the GMing he did for years prior: if he'd been doing a bad job of that, Rogean would have yanked him much sooner.

Regardless, y'all are in "fixate on isolated GM quotes" elf lawyer mode, and it's making you miss the forest from the trees. THE CAMP RULES PAGE IS NOT A RULES PAGE ... and I say that as the person who compiled that page! All that it is is a guide to help suggest how the staff will handle things (ie. it's as close to a "rules page" as we'll get beyond the Play Nice Policies), but the staff very much does not want the players to know the exact rules ... because the staff doesn't want "exact rules" to even exist in the first place. The Play Nice Policies is a vague document BY DESIGN!

/em deep breath

Until you accept that core premise of the rules system here, you will never "grok" the P99 rules.

[Snortles Chortles]

Swiftly fired GM who unjustly banned players and stripped their accounts of gear and then RMTd the stripped gear

Thinking any ruling this former GM ever said is valid in any argument

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**inb4 another forum novella

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Snortles Chortles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Swiftly fired GM who unjustly banned players and stripped their accounts of gear and then RMTd the stripped gear

Thinking any ruling this former GM ever said is valid in any argument

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**inb4 another forum novella

Don’t often agree with Snortles but have to on this one

[loramin]

Well, like I keep saying, we won't know until someone petitions and reports back what a GM actually does in the game.

So let's try a simple experiment cd288 and Chortles: one of you go ahead and lock the AC camp down for 16 hours, and the other waits there patiently for 16 hours and then /petitions.

Report back whether the GM let's the person who's been sitting there for 16 hours continue to do so.

[Snortles Chortles]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, like I keep saying, we won't know until someone petitions and reports back what a GM actually does in the game.

So let's try a simple experiment cd288 and Chortles: one of you go ahead and lock the AC camp down for 16 hours, and the other waits there patiently for 16 hours and then /petitions.

Report back whether the GM let's the person who's been sitting there for 16 hours continue to do so.

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[cd288]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, like I keep saying, we won't know until someone petitions and reports back what a GM actually does in the game.

So let's try a simple experiment cd288 and Chortles: one of you go ahead and lock the AC camp down for 16 hours, and the other waits there patiently for 16 hours and then /petitions.

Report back whether the GM let's the person who's been sitting there for 16 hours continue to do so.

Again, I think you're confused. I never said there would be some unusual ruling. I was saying our current system is better than any hypothetical system that involves someone having to move after getting the item.

Do you just look for things to debate? You're basically debating with someone who agrees with you lol

[Canelek]

The elf-litigation in this thread is getting weird.

[Phraxas]

does anyone know why they make some items lore and others not?? so lore rings, earrings, bracers make sense cause you have 2 slots for them but they dont want u to have multiples but what about items like Hooded Black Cloak, its bout the same price as gatorscale leggings, you can only wear 1 back slot, why is that item lore??

the reason im asking is the answer to this question to me is the answer to this thread... game intended for some items to be a 1 and done camp/collection with Lore being attached. so any manipulation of the rule ie corpsing the item or handing it off to a friend so you can continue would be the reason of the "rule" one and done.

but in this camp, neither the gator sleeves nor the gator legs are lore, so the idea of you got your item your done, imo doesnt apply because the game allows me to continue after getting either item.

or am i just viewing it all wrong??