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Old 11-02-2023, 08:01 PM
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It's fine when you say stupid things to discredit people, but it's not fine when they throw it back at you.

Moral myopia, DSM. Look into it!

Guess 20+ people lost in that thread against you, didn't they? Truly you are an EQ genius at work when you suggested root rotting in a charm group.

Whatever helps you endure yourself everyday, I suppose.
Yes, it is possible for multiple people to be wrong at the same time. You are the one who randomly came into this thread to attack me. I didn't force you to do it. I am simply defending myself.

If you don't want to look like a fool, stop acting like one. Learn some self control and resist the urge to randomly post off topic nonsense.

Please post in the four man group thread if you have evidence that you think proves me wrong. I will take a look at it. As for this thread, please stick to the topic at hand.
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Old 11-02-2023, 08:04 PM
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Another DSM thread, close it down boys
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Old 11-02-2023, 08:09 PM
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I'm sorry, guys. I shouldn't have tried to give this arrogant fool a reality check. He lacks the humility and maturity to self-improve. This will be my last post addressing him, at least on this thread.
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Old 11-02-2023, 08:16 PM
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I'm sorry, guys. I shouldn't have tried to give this arrogant fool a reality check. He lacks the humility and maturity to self-improve. This will be my last post addressing him, at least on this thread.
The reality check is Shamans can output pretty good DPS when they focus on DPSing. Shamans can root rot in a duo to increase DPS, which is directly related to OP's question. I am not the only one who is saying this. Danth has done this 10+ years ago with a Shaman/SK duo, which is again directly related to OP's question. It's not a new strategy I made up. If you have some Shaman DPS numbers that you think are relevant in proving me wrong, I would be happy to take a look at them.

Otherwise please stop doing the disservice of posting misinformation simply because you are salty about another thread on these forums.

Nobody needed you to come in to this thread and randomly insult people you dislike. Thank you for ceasing your senseless posting.
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Old 11-03-2023, 02:39 AM
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Why would anyone care to put a shaman into a DPS box? The epic is just a free mediocre version of Splurt.

In a duo that's the last thing a shaman is bringing to the table. Sure throw the dots around I guess but still.
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Old 11-03-2023, 08:50 AM
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Do you realise I was talking about the thread where you said 2 Enchanters and 1 Cleric would prefer a root rotting Shaman over a Magician? That was one of the audacious arguments I was talking about.

I didn't say root rotting was an unviable tactic for leveling, did I? You're putting words into my mouth, which is a specialty of yours, isn't it?

You're crazy, DSM. I mean that, genuinely.

Edit: Ah, yes. Another stealth edit from the legend. If I was ranting and raving, hypocrite, then don't respond.
lol'd again
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Old 11-03-2023, 09:48 AM
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You're all wrong. Dsm has the data to back his claims. I've went over the spread sheets and couldn't believe it myself.
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Old 11-03-2023, 10:15 AM
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yikes another one off the rails
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Old 11-03-2023, 10:37 AM
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Why would anyone care to put a shaman into a DPS box? The epic is just a free mediocre version of Splurt.

In a duo that's the last thing a shaman is bringing to the table. Sure throw the dots around I guess but still.
Ask the people who think adding DPS to a group is the only thing that matters. It isn't my argument that DPS is the end all be all of grouping. The people who think DPS is the only thing that matters are the ones trying to downplay Shaman DPS. I am simply refuting the incorrect claim that Shamans can't DPS well.

I agree the Shaman shouldn't solely DPS in a group, their other utility is more useful than DPS. Since Epic is free it is easy to DoT rooted mobs to increase DPS while still doing your utility role.
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Old 11-03-2023, 11:27 AM
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Ask the people who think adding DPS to a group is the only thing that matters. It isn't my argument that DPS is the end all be all of grouping. The people who think DPS is the only thing that matters are the ones trying to downplay Shaman DPS. I am simply refuting the incorrect claim that Shamans can't DPS well.

I agree the Shaman shouldn't solely DPS in a group, their other utility is more useful than DPS. Since Epic is free it is easy to DoT rooted mobs to increase DPS while still doing your utility role.
It’s ok to be frustrated at people but let’s not even elude to the fact a shaman can DPS with the epic. It’s a 9 second cast and 90 second duration that scales the longer it lasts (ie: not the best dps tool for short fights). Best case in 99 seconds if not resisted it will do 14.39 dps. That doesn’t even count time to root stuff.

You would have to run 5x dots concurrently to do 71dps and with varying timers. Meanwhile with most fights being 30 seconds or so a real dps could have done that to three individual mobs in the same duration and reduced the total npc count.
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