What's the purpose of a Ranger?

[Corrodith]

Originally Posted by stormlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks for replying.

Reason I ask is sometimes we need to do cc (especially for 2 or more targets). Using a bow in that situation is better than melee because it allows you to measure a situation better (wide angle view).

As I see it, you trade some dps for better situation awareness.

But in a situation like that you'd mostly be focused on keeping snare/root in place.

There may be situations where you need distance and are not within melee range of main target too. For example, if a mob is rooted and it breaks. You want some distance between you and it to reroot. But if being within distance of the main target to use melee requires being too close to your rooted mob(s) then using archery would allow you to keep proper distance and still attack the main target.

Reason I bring this up is because I was reading some forum posts somewhere else on the net and a ranger brought up how the luclin-era made viable archery rangers for a while. He commented that this made rangers better at CC because of being able to see the situation from a distance. I think there's some merit.

Can anyone think of other ways that it could be justified? (other than to point out my errors in judgement about what i think are ways that justify its use in specific cases)

I would strongly advise trying to use bow in an exp group. Bow damage is really laughable and people aren't going to want to group with you if you have a reputation for using bow all the time lol. If you need better "situational awareness" drop into 3rd person.

[Pringles]

Its already been said, but its to eat DTs.... for real, it is.

[Motec]

^racist

[Tamiah2011]

Rangers pretty much worthless class.Just my thought

[Motec]

not one disgruntled ranger took the bait [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[maverixdamighty]

I'll take a well played ranger in my group anyday.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Motec [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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We were busy rolling other classes.

[visage]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We were busy rolling other classes.

Ain't that the truth.

[Snaggles]

A good ranger is better than a bad rogue.

Playing a rogue from classic through Velious I don't remember a single time I saved a group from demise. I can remember a ton of hybrids who perfected their game and did though. That's why I maxed out the rogue and never went back after making my SK.

Really you're filling a dps role. It's a simple job. Anyone who sees that as the backbone of an awesome group needs to get their head examined. Every other class makes constant decisions to avoid letting the group wipe...you mash like 3 buttons and wait for the next mob.

That said, if rangers as a whole suck like many of them did back on live I can see the problem.

Autoattack, kick, dot, nuke, aggro, "HEAL MEE!!!"....die.


Edit: I'm recalling the main problem being the hybrid exp penalty. It's something we never knew about on live yet still found a way to level to 60 and beyond. Go figure I remember being grouped with MULTIPLE hybrids and the exp flowed amazingly. Maybe because those groups weren't shit to begin with...

[Aadill]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A good ranger is better than a bad rogue.

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I can remember a ton of hybrids who perfected their game and did though.

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That said, if rangers as a whole suck like many of them did back on live I can see the problem.

Autoattack, kick, dot, nuke, aggro, "HEAL MEE!!!"....die.

This. All of this. Sure rangers aren't good at really anything but what makes them fun is the OPTIONS you have to still be a viable solution to a problem. There are other games that play on this freeform style of gaming and it's actually very rewarding because you pick and choose exactly how you want to play. As has been said, some rangers simply DPS and still keep up decently with most classes. On higher level mobs rangers do fail because of a lack of offense but that changes in Velious. Others CC more effectively than CC classes in some situations or constantly pull better than pulling classes in certain zones. It's all situational but it requires a larger understanding of multiple skillsets and knowing when to use each. The Ranger Codex isn't a one page manual that says, "Take the DT," and a lot of people don't realize it.

Most classes have a very distinct role. No one cares what rangers do, so we do what we want. It's fun and generally still contributes to a group. It's sad that the majority of the hate comes from old tired jokes or hatred for the XP penalty. Unless you're a bard interaction is the number one concept of this game, something a lot of people forget.