Confessions of a cheater...

[ShowEQ]

A feel bad and try to defend mySeq folks because.......

I have run ShowEQ on linux and suffered no penalty and am now gaining an EXP boost.

I have a real life friend who has less techy knowledge and ran mySeq on my advice.

He is suspended and bummed, I am rewarded.

His fault for sure but I did suggest he use mySeq for lack of having the skills / pc's to run showEQ.... bummer.

Never have run MQ2 or mySEQ because seems like this was bound to happen. Although should add never ran MQ2 because that seems to affect everyone where seeing a map and being a EQ loner like me is not much advantage in the grand scheme. I can see how using for raids is advantageous in more ways that being a solo'r. Either way the point remains all these mySEQ noobs hit (the same as MQ2'ers) and all the ShowEQ people untouched and winning exp advantage.

[Dantes]

So what you are saying is, they should find a way to ban ShowEQ people too? Good idea.

The rules are pretty clear:

- Any type of program or script that gives you an unfair advantage (eg. MacroQuest, ShowEQ or packet modification) will result in an instant ban with no lenience. Cheating will be ruled with an iron first regardless of who you are.

[nalkin]

is mySEQ not showEQ? I thought they were the same?

[Kobias]

Originally Posted by ShowEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have run ShowEQ on linux and suffered no penalty and am now gaining an EXP boost.

I have a real life friend who has less techy knowledge and ran mySeq on my advice.

He is suspended and bummed, I am rewarded.

I'm not sure what you're trying to gain with this... When I read this, I get the impression your upset that some people probably slipped through the cracks and are being rewarded for it with an XP boost. Almost as if you'd prefer the bonus being taken away.

I prefer to look it this way, a vast majority of cheaters were suspended, lost money, lost levels, and get 0 xp points for two weeks :P

I realize that you can't track SEQ users, and even though it's still cheating, I still think the fact that MQ2 detection is more proactive now on the client-side is worth celebrating, and the XP bonus is a great way to celebrate with everyone (including the few SEQ cheaters) that MQ2 is out of the picture for a while =)

[Davardo]

Originally Posted by Kobias [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The moment the v12 patch came out, I was digging into the ASM of the new dll files to find out what they did. I was actually rather shocked with some of it. Those files do a lot more than what you might think it does. Kinda borderline privacy violation imo,

Woah woah, What does it do exactly?

[Cheater]

Originally Posted by nalkin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

is mySEQ not showEQ? I thought they were the same?

One is the easy windows version, the other runs off of a linux box but they basically do the same thing.

Also MQ2 does use maps, but only on zones that devs weren't able to disable them in like cities and such so it wouldn't have been all that helpful. Any zone that you can bring up a map will allow MQ to show npcs and pcs on the map along with their con colors. I assume if maps would have been available in all zones then it would work with them as well.

[Drem]

what a bunch of nonsense. just play the game the way it was designed. pussies

[Uthgaard]

Originally Posted by Davardo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Woah woah, What does it do exactly?

They confuse people who can't tell the difference between native assembly and encryption, obv. It's like looking at one of Tamiah's posts and saying: "I understand." You can say you do, but it won't be true.

[fohkure]

Cool post. I had some friends who messed around with MQ2 on live during the GoD era. It was pretty crazy to see all the stuff it could do. I am very programming illiterate, so it was amazing to me to see what a third party program could do. When my friend used mq2 on live he could zone into keyed zones that he did not possess the key to by just typing /zone zonename. He could target a pc or npc and /warp target and instantly be at that same /loc or he could /warp loc and instantly be at that location. there were a millino plugins and scripts that people wrote to do pretty insane things. He used it much like the OP used it, to aid soloing farm mobs in large areas. The # in front of the placeholder for rare spawns was seriously broken for farming.

I never did mess with it because I felt it would ruin the game for me (i'm still convinced it would have), but I was amazed at what it could do. It was pretty much how I imagined a GMs screen would look. You could pull up a map and see every npc and pc in the zone, their loc, and watch them move around the zone in real time. It was basically just an information tool... as he used it anyways. As they say though, knowledge is power... and it definitely made his abilities much more powerful compared to any other non-hacking player.

I feel like 1/2 the people use these programs as a power trip. They love the fact that they have more information and abilities than the general population. The other 1/2 of the people use it because they are just straight up greedy. The OP falls into the former category i'm sure. While that category might not be as malicious, the end result is still some what the same.

This whole thread was pretty pointless though. 90% of the people who read it and really have no experience with any of these third party programs won't believe a word said in here. They will be convinced that these programs have functions like /loot 10000pp or /level 60 etc.

Chris

[Yukahwa]

People aren't stupid. We get it.