So there I was in permafrost

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Wrei [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've said my piece so troll away.

1.) Your thread does not belong here. Go to the rants section please.

2.) We were first in zone with 15 at the previously agreed upon staging ground.

3.) You still ended up calling us a zerg force at the end of your thread. Nice...

4.) The reason we were there en-mass had to do with a an issue that does not pertain to anyone outside of the two guilds involved and the GMs.

5.) Also, I seem to recall another guild hanging out in Permafrost for an extremely long time the last time she was due to spawn and you didn't seem to have a problem with it then.

6.) We did everything according to the rules set up for the server and prior agreements that were made between guilds. If you have any issues, take it up with the guild leaders that made the agreements or the GMs.

[Rhalous]

Look, I am about to head to class, but lets not end up having this thread moved to R&F today, ok? Feel free to start another post in R&F if y'all want to talk about issues, I will even join you in the discussion, assuming it's civilized.

[Trimm]

Originally Posted by Wrei [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm very happy that you guys managed to down her, just unhappy as to how you got to attempt her.

I knew this would come up sooner or later, so I'll address it without flaming or trolling.

The truth is, we have been trying to race you guys (All guilds really, but in this case IB in particular) for Vox/Naggy and gods. We have trackers and alts camped at spawns like I'd assume most guilds do. The problem was, me playing my main and logging over to check my tracker alt every hour or half hour was not good enough. IB, along with other guilds too, have trackers and groups camped at the raid spawn 24/7. These guilds know when dragons and gods spawn litterally the second they spawn, and are dead within 30 minutes or so.

We were not able/willing to compete with this.

So instead, we decided after a good Hate clear that we would head to Perma and camp everyone's main there so we could all log in once we found out Vox had spawned. That's when we realized IB saw us doing this, and came to Perma with their own force. We then decided we will suck it up and and win this race to Vox. We had never killed her before, and we were there before IB, so we weren't going to give it away. Last week, we had the first attempt on Draco and when we engaged, the zone lagged and we all died without getting a fair shot. Call it bitter, but we were unhappy and didn't want to lose out on our chance to kill another boss.

I'm the last person that wants to sit around and camp a raid boss that might spawn 3 days from now. I (we) did it this time as an exception because we really, really wanted to kill her. That's all.

Feel free to dispute or flame this post, I'm happy to address any issues anyone has with how Divinity does it's thing. Just know this is not something we are planning on doing for every boss. I considered this very much the exception and not the rule.

[Trimm]

Originally Posted by Jete [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Grats Div! ( sorry I trained that TT on you! )

And I apologize for getting shitty with you. It just looked really bad when we saw a bard run by followed by an icy terror that came straight for us. No harm done and I have no ill-will toward you man. Besides, we got you back with that fail ice giant pull [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Wrei]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1.) Your thread does not belong here. Go to the rants section please.

2.) We were first in zone with 15 at the previously agreed upon staging ground.

3.) You still ended up calling us a zerg force at the end of your thread. Nice...

4.) The reason we were there en-mass had to do with a an issue that does not pertain to anyone outside of the two guilds involved and the GMs.

5.) Also, I seem to recall another guild hanging out in Permafrost for an extremely long time the last time she was due to spawn and you didn't seem to have a problem with it then.

6.) We did everything according to the rules set up for the server and prior agreements that were made between guilds. If you have any issues, take it up with the guild leaders that made the agreements or the GMs.

1. Why does this need to be in R&F? I thought my post was fairly civil...

2. Look, the 15 itself can be debated. Old prep area, new prep area etc.. you still need to be present AT the area. My post was not about debating who got where first but rather that you were willing to wait 72 hours with 15 people.

3. Ok perhaps that was unnecessary on my part. 38 for a kill IS a zerg however, it's not like I was lying.

4. Once again you seem to be getting all agitated over my zerg comment, this isn't about having a LOT of people at the kill but rather about people SITTING IN AN EMPTY ROOM. Please re-read my post.

5. When trans camped Nag, I raged on the forums about it. Not like I'm singing a new song here. So because I failed to post every time a guild goes full retard means I agreed camping was cool but it's not anymore?

6. I never said Divinity broke the rules, it is completely legitimate to sit in an empty room with 15 people 24/7 to get the first attempt on a boss. I was pointing out the fact that rotation was lifted for the spirit of competition but those rules are being circumvented by going full retard.

If it makes you feel any better, I will retract all zerg comments. Div killed vox with 4 people ok? Gratz... seriously it's NOT about the kill but HOW you got to kill. So if your going to debate my post at least try to refute why you think camping a boss is cool ok? Cause this zerg debate is getting old seriously.

[logiktrip]

You mad bro?

[Wrei]

Originally Posted by Trimm [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I knew this would come up sooner or later, so I'll address it with flaming or trolling.

The truth is, we have been trying to race you guys (All guilds really, but in this case IB in particular) for Vox/Naggy and gods. We have trackers and alts camped at spawns like I'd assume most guilds do. The problem was, me playing my main and logging over to check my tracker alt every hour or half hour was not good enough. IB, along with other guilds too, have trackers and groups camped at the raid spawn 24/7. These guilds know when dragons and gods spawn litterally the second they spawn, and are dead within 30 minutes or so.

We were not able/willing to compete with this.

So instead, we decided after a good Hate clear that we would head to Perma and camp everyone's main there so we could all log in once we found out Vox had spawned. That's when we realized IB saw us doing this, and came to Perma with their own force. We then decided we will suck it up and and win this race to Vox. We had never killed her before, and we were there before IB, so we weren't going to give it away. Last week, we has the first attempt on Draco and when we engaged, the zone lagged and we all died without getting a fair shot. Call it bitter, but we were unhappy and didn't want to lose out on our chance to kill another boss.

I'm the last person that wants to sit around and camp a raid boss that might spawn 3 days from now. I (we) did it this time as an exception because we really, really wanted to kill her. That's all.

Feel free to dispute or flame this post, I'm happy to address any issues anyone has with how Divinity does it's thing. Just know this is not something we are planning on doing for every boss. I considered this very much the exception and not the rule.

Trimm, once again you are the voice of reason. I now have a better understanding on this situation. I don't have anything against Divinity, I apologize if I sounded petty. Fact is though this really isn't about Div but the whole issue of camping and that's all I was trying to bring out.

As for you chicanery, the post was made to get a legitimate response for something that I consider to be an important issue. I'll refrain myself from doling out the same childish cheap shots and hopefully we can discuss the bigger picture.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Wrei [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Trimm, once again you are the voice of reason. I now have a better understanding on this situation. I don't have anything against Divinity, I apologize if I sounded petty. Fact is though this really isn't about Div but the whole issue of camping and that's all I was trying to bring out.

As for you chicanery, the post was made to get a legitimate response for something that I consider to be an important issue. I'll refrain myself from doling out the same childish cheap shots and hopefully we can discuss the bigger picture.

It's cool dude, I just thought it was sort of hypocritical when it was IB that was camped in Perma for a much longer period of time than us last time she spawned. The difference being that we never killed before last night, and you guys have killed her... well let's just say a bunch of times.

Basically it's like Trimm said though. We just want a chance to hit all the content, right? We all have other things to do and nobody is planning on spending 3 days a week in a dragon lair staring at the walls. It was a Sunday afternoon, fun guild chat and good timing. I highly doubt we would still have had 15 in zone an hour later had she not spawned when she did; there were already a few people planning on logging off for the night.
And you guys would have had yet another Vox kill.

We cool?

[Alawen Everywhere]

Congratulations Divinity! Nicely done.

[yaaaflow]

Originally Posted by Finawin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In this thread: Divinity is awesome, and Clayton is a crybaby noob.

Wow I agree with Finawin on something. Grats divinity, fuck the haters.