Idea to stop all the fighting

[Grozmok]

Oh snap, more server drama.

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[falkun]

And by your reasoning whichever guild pulls the train should get the mob because the other(s) should camp out to avoid train aggro. So the new raiding philosophy is not "get the raid mob", its "train the other guild until they camp out".

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And by your reasoning whichever guild pulls the train should get the mob because the other(s) should camp out to avoid train aggro. So the new raiding philosophy is not "get the raid mob", its "train the other guild until they camp out".

except the train would have come to our camp, where we could have CC'd it properly and killed it after Inny. Instead, people derailed it onto their own camp by trying to KS it as it all passed thru them.

Some people don't understand the logic of how the mechanics work i suppose.

If you don't place yourself on the aggro list of a mob already aggrod by another, it won't stop and attack you. It will keep going for the other people on the aggro list.

The BDA monk above apparently doesn't understand this.

[quido]

The next time TMO and VD are racing for Talendor, I'm going to park our raid right between VD and Talendor, and when they have him incoming I'm going to tag him and when their puller FDs or whatever and their whole train attacks me, I'm going to come here and bitch to you all.

[Metallikus]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

except the train would have come to our camp, where we could have CC'd it properly and killed it after Inny. Instead, people derailed it onto their own camp by trying to KS it as it all passed thru them.

Some people don't understand the logic of how the mechanics work i suppose.

If you don't place yourself on the aggro list of a mob already aggrod by another, it won't stop and attack you. It will keep going for the other people on the aggro list.

The BDA monk above apparently doesn't understand this.

Apparently Stealin hasn't learned a simple game mechanic: If you pull multiple mobs thru a camp where people are buffing or fighting other mobs, the proximity of that combat and or buffing will chain agro any and all mobs that come thru that camp especially giant Gods with high agro range that AE.

[quido]

Going and sitting on the only path between the zone-in and a raid mob doesn't give you a rightful claim to that mob. When you choose to setup your camp in the way of imminent danger, you have no one to blame but yourselves.

[Metallikus]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Going and sitting on the only path between the zone-in and a raid mob doesn't give you a rightful claim to that mob. When you choose to setup your camp in the way of imminent danger, you have no one to blame but yourselves.

I do agree that BDA setting up camp there was illogical since that is roamer central.

It doesn't excuse you from training them. Give them dudes a break.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Apparently Stealin hasn't learned a simple game mechanic: If you pull multiple mobs thru a camp where people are buffing or fighting other mobs, the proximity of that combat and or buffing will chain agro any and all mobs that come thru that camp especially giant Gods with high agro range that AE.

you're an idiot, i'm not surprised you know little of how EQ works on p99.

Getting AE'd by Inny will not put you on his aggro list. Getting AE'd by inny and your pet attacks him will put you on his aggro list.

Casting buffs on yourself will not give you social aggro to mobs running by. Casting buffs on someone with aggro will give you aggro to the mobs and social aggro on all the mobs after the person who was originally on the aggro list dies/fds/gates/whatever.

You don't get social aggro immediately if someone gathers more mobs after you buff him either. You won't get it until he dies and the others assist when they go to seek mode.

If you want to know more about how some of this stuff works, just ask.

[Metallikus]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you're an idiot, i'm not surprised you know little of how EQ works on p99.

Getting AE'd by Inny will not put you on his aggro list. Getting AE'd by inny and your pet attacks him will put you on his aggro list.

Casting buffs on yourself will not give you social aggro to mobs running by. Casting buffs on someone with aggro will give you aggro to the mobs and social aggro on all the mobs after the person who was originally on the aggro list dies/fds/gates/whatever.

You don't get social aggro immediately if someone gathers more mobs after you buff him either. You won't get it until he dies and the others assist when they go to seek mode.

If you want to know more about how some of this stuff works, just ask.

jesus christ, you said BDA was killing mobs at the bottom of ramp. In what world would 20 mobs from up top not assist those mobs you are training them past if their tank goes low hp?

[falkun]

You still interfered with another raid camp with a train. Even if none of them aggroed, the train running through their camp is going to social aggro SOMEONE, the bards at least if not any other persons. Once you have a train, it is yours to control. If it paths through another camp, it is still yours to control. TR/IB was raid suspended when this happened to them for VS. It doesn't matter what the train does, its yours, and it wiped another raid. Did TMO not petition that VS kill to make that ruling?