A Concerned Citizen Writes...

[Grozmok]

I'm not going to jump on the Hate #1 Guild bandwagon, but I do think it's hella funny that TMO is the first to hop into the thread and get defensive.

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Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

poor sportsmanship is limited to a number of individuals on each side

As a community, we should call them out specifically, de-guild them and ostracize them. There is no place for them to go.

Either they play nice or go the way of red 99.

[Flunklesnarkin]

Originally Posted by Grozmok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not going to jump on the Hate #1 Guild bandwagon, but I do think it's hella funny that TMO is the first to hop into the thread and get defensive.

Yah.. I don't think they want maint. day because no matter what they say it is more difficult to kill 18+ raid targets at once before competition than socking / batphoning raid targets as they spawn with variance.


Sure they may still get the majority of raid targets.. I have no idea how large their guild is.. but others would get some also.. which is more than what is currently happening (aside from their charity).

and come velious even their guild wouldn't be able to kill every raid target on a maint day.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Flunklesnarkin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yah.. I don't think they want maint. day because no matter what they say it is more difficult to kill 18+ raid targets at once before competition than socking / batphoning raid targets as they spawn with variance.


Sure they may still get the majority of raid targets.. I have no idea how large their guild is.. but others would get some also.. which is more than what is currently happening (aside from their charity).

and come velious even their guild wouldn't be able to kill every raid target on a maint day.

we were larger than IB and larger than VD and usually had as much or slightly less than both when competed against them combined.

Now that IB is gone and VD has taken a step back, TMO has grown even larger. Take a moment to let that set. Some members that stopped playing due to whatever reasons decided to come back when the street got easy and TMO has also recruited heavily even after it wasn't really needed. TMO now is looking forward to destroying any competition in Kunark and for Velious.

I don't know why anyone would not want patch day respawns, it would be the only fun "event" left on all of p99.

[Akim]

the PVP server is here buddy.

[Flunklesnarkin]

Originally Posted by Akim [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the PVP server is here buddy.

full of 13 year olds who think spamming porn gif's is edgy >_>


copied from the "about this server link"


Project 1999 started development in 2008, and was released in October of 2009. The mission of the project is to create the classic feeling that many had during the early days of Everquest during those time periods, starting with Classic content and releasing the other expansions and content on a similar timeline that was experienced on Live. The server will stop at Velious, at which point many options will be considered, including possible custom content that will maintain the spirit of the game, and/or an additional new server starting over at Pre-Kunark.


custom content could be something like a revamped jaggedpine zone or other zones that already connect to classic zones possibly. No point really worrying about what their plans are post velioius atm though as velious hasn't even arrived yet.

[Grozmok]

Originally Posted by Akim [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the PVP server is here buddy.

I guess so, I've been seeing a lot more players use the, 'bro' word the last few days.

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[Frieza_Prexus]

As a community, we should call them out specifically, de-guild them and ostracize them. There is no place for them to go.

I think this is done for the most part. There's been a few notable exceptions here and there, but most guilds are willing to I'd think. As I said earlier, aside from general trolling which can typically be safely ignored, most guilds will take action when presented with strong evidence or proof of a member's misdeeds.

Yah.. I don't think they want maint. day

It is my impression that TMO, as a whole, strongly supports patch day spawns. They are extremely fun, and it becomes more about skill than socking/tracking. Right now mobs are dominated by trackers. When you're racing, a single wipe or messed up pull costs you time which loses mobs.

It really sucks when you miss a patch day, I think perhaps leaving spawn times as they are and putting in a random repop once every 2-3 weeks as a supplement would be the most balanced solution.

We're a bit derailed towards an end game discussion at the moment. @ the OP: Your earlier fear about out-and-out exploiting is mostly unfounded. In my opinion. The GMs have access to extremely detailed logs and they do watch on a regular basis. I'm going to be a bit presumptuous here, but I suspect you are mentioning the controversy over our pull methods inside of VP. If you check my post history, you will find a detailed discussion addressing these exact concerns.

In the end, actual exploiting is very easy to prove if it happens. The GMs can, and eventually, will catch you. What I suspect has you worried (TMO in VP) isn't a discussion so much about exploiting, but a confusion of terms. The word "exploit" was used to describe our behavior, but it was later clarified and repudiated by the server staff. I think a more appropriate way to say would be that the server staff felt we were trivializing the content (an assertion with which we respectfully disagreed). Exploiting is a wrong, trivialization is a no-fault problem.

Again, if you'd like a more detailed analysis (along with me nearly losing my patience with a particular someone a few times), I would direct you here: http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=68671

If this is not what had you concerned, then feel free to ignore it.

As for this:

but I do think it's hella funny that TMO is the first to hop into the thread and get defensive.

Perhaps, but I am sure you can see how we drew the conclusion that this was likely directed at us. If our goal is to improve and maintain a good reputation, why wouldn't we join a discussion where our relationship is on the line? It's decision theory 101. The only logical choice it seems is to advocate for ourselves in a situation where we would benefit from it.

[Splorf22]

I'm tired of having the same old argument about whether it not it takes huge amounts of skill to poopsock and batphone.

The point is: patch day is classic.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Flunklesnarkin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and come velious even their guild wouldn't be able to kill every raid target on a maint day.

I would think by the time velious came out every member would have all the loot they need from everything thru kunark, that we wouldn't even bother with older content, and if competition is how it is today I don't see us losing very much in velious. Maybe some lodizals and that water dragon whose name escapes me, wuoshi, velk, or vindi. Definitely not all of those maybe 1 or 2 from that list. Although velious might bring a revival cause another raid guild to form, or a current one to expand, who knows

[Harrison]

Absolutely nothing is going to be done with any problems at the end-game.

It's been shitted up for years now. The last ditch efforts to end poopsocking, etc. were long ago abandoned.