Trakanon

[CrystalBlue]

Originally Posted by SamwiseBanned [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

only people who want item loot are people who dont play and wizards.

So much truth.


p.s. Nirgon, which category do you fall in? oh wait..

[Nirgon]

K give me a rogue, sk, bard, monk, druid, cleric etc... and I'll say the same.

/shrug

[Dullah]

We just want classic resists. Those opposing it are obviously against classic EQ, ignorant of what classic pvp was, and generally do so from anonymous troll accounts on the forums.

Though people love to say "EQ was only a pve game", Rallos Zek was around from the beginning and had a very balanced way of handling all the diversity among classes. The primary way this was done was by making spell damage random (like melee hits or miss), and crowd control spells unreliable, especially with 80mr devoted to it (which made you nearly immune). Here you have to sacrifice every slot for MR to keep from being rooted, and you still get rooted enough that people spam it in every battle. When melee are sacrificing 300 hp and 50-70 str from items just to keep from getting CC'd (and still get rooted/snared/stunned/blinded), you can quickly understand how the present system is failing.

[Dullah]

Originally Posted by Dullah

Those opposing it are obviously against classic EQ, ignorant of what classic pvp was, and generally do so from anonymous troll accounts on the forums.

See above poster for example of one against classic EQ, clueless of how it worked then, also trolling "as a monk" with no experience with pvp to speak from.

[Tycko]

Originally Posted by Swampfeet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

CC spells should work or melee become insanely over powered, this is coming from someone who plays a monk and warrior.

End the fucking QQ for shits sake.

You have not PVP'd with a monk at high levels, you can not even proc your t-staff. And the majority of your Warrior PVP was in gank squads chasing after the evil nihilum empire before you decided to join them. Therefore I conclude your statement has zero value and all readers should ignore it.

- Thanks

[Nirgon]

Swamp this is why Cwall put you on ignore, no offense.

5 people spam you with root -> they get you, insta gibbed by melee train. This is with 128mr aka max MR (like tcrown) in every slot, don't care to log in and add it up right now.

So yes, that is stupid on a classic EQ server.

[Nirgon]

Right but Cwall has experience in EverQuest well past level 10 and he has his own reasons for not leveling up here.

The point isn't 5v1 dude, again, follow through a little with your thinking. It's in 20v20 when the strat is "okay assist me on this guy, all casters spam roots until it lands!" and root is way faster than almost every nuke, dot or heal. If you watch the test of tactics vid (the 5v5 team tourney) you wont see anyone spamming root. Maybe some of the bluebie servers tried doing that and those teams were beat down in the first round on their home server. What you will see is a pet or two getting rooted, which is good stuff and should work.

That and whirl landed for a really, really long time here. The first time I got whirled at like 70ish magic resist buffed I was like ... okay we got some real problemos here. Trollborn and the like would have you believe that this makes their class viable.

Classes are viable without root and whirl spam, if you think otherwise then yeah a patch like this would "ruin the game for you". It's depressing to think someone is this bad at EQ but we have a few of these people here. Everyone with a brain cell, including your new guild leader sees the problem with this.

[SamwiseBanned]

All the classic posts I've seen have suggested 120-140 minimum except blaarts troll sham guide where he says 90 minimum but mind u sham can self mr. 70 mr being immune is pretty laughable seeing as how one gmr can almost take u there.

[Dullah]

Originally Posted by Swampfeet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Root Test: 101 casts @ 128mr
95 resists - 6 landed

Shits OP bros, make sure you don't get casted on 23 times or you might be in trouble

117 mr. Averaged root 1 in 6, maybe 1 in 7 casts in tests using several wizard manabars on a player of equal level.

I call bullshit.

[SamwiseBanned]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Right but Cwall has experience in EverQuest well past level 10 and he has his own reasons for not leveling up here.

The point isn't 5v1 dude, again, follow through a little with your thinking. It's in 20v20 when the strat is "okay assist me on this guy, all casters spam roots until it lands!" and root is way faster than almost every nuke, dot or heal. If you watch the test of tactics vid (the 5v5 team tourney) you wont see anyone spamming root. Maybe some of the bluebie servers tried doing that and those teams were beat down in the first round on their home server. What you will see is a pet or two getting rooted, which is good stuff and should work.

That and whirl landed for a really, really long time here. The first time I got whirled at like 70ish magic resist buffed I was like ... okay we got some real problemos here. Trollborn and the like would have you believe that this makes their class viable.

Classes are viable without root and whirl spam, if you think otherwise then yeah a patch like this would "ruin the game for you". It's depressing to think someone is this bad at EQ but we have a few of these people here. Everyone with a brain cell, including your new guild leader sees the problem with this.

No one spammed root in botb cuz you couldn't run away out casting range not to mention bards where on the field. The only time root is used is to keep people from running/plugging.