Afghanistan Megathread

[Jibartik]

I think it's wrong to say that the riot at the capitol had intent, I think it was just a mob doing what a mob does and though some people had intent to overturn the election, others just wanted anarchy, others wanted to go protest, but like the mostly peaceful protests before it, it became a riot.

[Ravager]

Did you even see any of the video? It goes beyond protest immediately.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The intent was to overturn the election and overthrow government, so yeah, it was insurrection, no matter how stupidly incompetent it was. That was the point of the exercise I proposed.

Where did they state that intention? How was breaking into the building going to overturn the election? All I heard was that they didn’t feel the election was fair. Why are they not being charged with treason or any more serious crimes for an insurrection? Gonna have to cite some sources documenting their stated intentions. I’m big on sources

Not saying it’s not accurate, just saying I don’t believe it

Edit: That is, unless you are implying that anyone who breaks into a federal building is trying to overthrow the government. In which case we have a LOT of insurrections that have occurred

[unsunghero]

That is, unless you are implying that anyone who breaks into a federal building is trying to overthrow the government. In which case we have a LOT of insurrections that have occurred

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where did they state that intention? How was breaking into the building going to overturn the election? All I heard was that they didn’t feel the election was fair. Why are they not being charged with treason or any more serious crimes for an insurrection? Gonna have to cite some sources documenting their stated intentions. I’m big on sources

Not saying it’s not accurate, just saying I don’t believe it

Edit: That is, unless you are implying that anyone who breaks into a federal building is trying to overthrow the government. In which case we have a LOT of insurrections that have occurred

Why do you think they were there?

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did you even see any of the video? It goes beyond protest immediately.

It didn't go beyond the 100 days of mostly peaceful protests that led up to it, or any other countries protests have gone in the last 4 or 5 years by a long shot.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why do you think they were there?

You asking me? Does my opinion affect what they are going to be charged with? (Hint: it’s not insurrection). I believe they were protesting an election they didn’t feel fair. I also didn’t feel the election was fair, does that make me an insurrectionist? If I break into a USPS post office would that make me one? It’s a federal building

Did you know that the black panther party broke into the California capital building years ago with guns and weren’t labeled as insurrectionists? It was labeled as a demonstration (https://capitolweekly.net/black-panthers-armed-capitol/). Check it out

Jan 6 was a protest turned into a riot where some members decided to trespass in a federal building, although there are videos of cops letting them in that I’ve seen. That’s what they are being charged with, that I’ve seen thus far

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It didn't go beyond the 100 days of mostly peaceful protests that led up to it, or any other countries protests have gone in the last 4 or 5 years by a long shot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVPSYr-xG6s
Yep. Peaceful.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You asking me? Does my opinion affect what they are going to be charged with? (Hint: it’s not insurrection). I believe they were protesting an election they didn’t feel fair. I also didn’t feel the election was fair, does that make me an insurrectionist? If I break into a USPS post office would that make me one? It’s a federal building

Did you know that the black panther party broke into the California capital building years ago with guns and weren’t labeled as insurrectionists? It was labeled as a demonstration (https://capitolweekly.net/black-panthers-armed-capitol/). Check it out

It was a protest where some members decided to trespass in a federal building, although there are videos of cops letting them in that I’ve seen. That’s what they are being charged with, that I’ve seen thus far

You're arguing, yet you don't want to submit an opinion? Then what are you arguing about? Why do you think they were there? What was their objective? And what would it have looked like if they achieved that objective that day?

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're arguing, yet you don't want to submit an opinion? Then what are you arguing about? Why do you think they were there? What was their objective? And what would it have looked like if they achieved that objective that day?

Do you not know how to read? You literally copied my opinion without bothering to read it

Here I’ll say it again: “ It was a protest where some members decided to trespass in a federal building, although there are videos of cops letting them in that I’ve seen”

That’s why I think they were there, because they wanted to break into a federal building, and possibly steal some shit, which some of them did. What was their objective? HTF am I going to know that without talking to them or reading their minds?

Their objective initially was to protest, and that protest got out of control and involved breaking and entering, vandalism, and theft. And that’s what they are being charged with