the i dont care about politics anymore thread

[Gatordash]

Lets all send a big thank you to New York's Bill DeBlasio for putting an end to these racist asian & white 4 years olds who are segregating hispanic & black kids from accelerated kindergarten class. I'm sure the new class that is aimed to let everyone in will be just as good.

New York schools end gifted and talented program after years of opponents saying that it segregated students

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah bring the rifle, there maybe a bully. It's basic bully protection 101.

Bullying is an act of war on a 1:1 level, all bets are off if you've been bullied.

Important to note that if the bullying happened, bystanders are expendable.

Part of the reason I don't go to political rallies


However, when the shit does hit the fan....

[Botten]

Originally Posted by Gatordash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lets all send a big thank you to New York's Bill DeBlasio for putting an end to these racist asian & white 4 years olds who are segregating hispanic & black kids from accelerated kindergarten class. I'm sure the new class that is aimed to let everyone in will be just as good.

New York schools end gifted and talented program after years of opponents saying that it segregated students

Charter
Magnet
Gifted
Private

All a waste in my option if we put the money into our public schools it would have a much larger yield of education and a bigger push for safety (with more allocated money). Let the money go into Colleges and University if they want to specialize.

Had a pollster once ask me do you think tax payer money should be use on opening more specialize and chartered schools. When I said no she had a fit saying public schools have gone to garbage.

I told her the money should then go to the public schools to fix that.

Don't even think she recorded my vote and hung up the phone.

[Gatordash]

Originally Posted by Botten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Charter
Magnet
Gifted
Private

All a waste in my option if we put the money into our public schools it would have a much larger yield of education and a bigger push for safety (with more allocated money). Let the money go into Colleges and University if they want to specialize.

Had a pollster once ask me do you think tax payer money should be use on opening more specialize and chartered schools. When I said no she had a fit saying public schools have gone to garbage.

I told her the money should then go to the public schools to fix that.

Don't even think she recorded my vote and hung up the phone.

I don't think throwing money at the problem is the answer if parents don't care about education.

Biden's nationwide pre-school would do way more for helping kids than throwing more money into public schools.

Adding an extended daycare program would be even better imo. And parents would be able to work/school longer hours so they could be more productive and it would take stress off family life.

But no, those idiots are just going to cut checks to people.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Botten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Charter
Magnet
Gifted
Private

All a waste in my option if we put the money into our public schools it would have a much larger yield of education and a bigger push for safety (with more allocated money). Let the money go into Colleges and University if they want to specialize.

Had a pollster once ask me do you think tax payer money should be use on opening more specialize and chartered schools. When I said no she had a fit saying public schools have gone to garbage.

I told her the money should then go to the public schools to fix that.

Don't even think she recorded my vote and hung up the phone.

I'd agree with this to some extent. However, I think just throwing money at a problem is a bit of a cop out. What exactly is the problem defined, what is the money going to go towards specifically, and are there ways to correct the problem that don't cost money? Those would be my questions

I think charter and private schools should exist as options for parents who want to be able to be able to have more choice in their kid's schooling, and can't homeschool due to logistics (have to work, etc)

I also think there should be more BOARDING SCHOOLS. Let me say from working in mental health with problem kids and teens for 14 years, attendance is a huge issue for many families, becoming more of an issue every year, and some things the schools are doing would surprise most people

I don't think most people realize that even though a kid not legally allowed to drop out of school until age 16, they can essentially outsmart the entire system by just still completely refusing to go to school pre-16. Become dead weight so your parent can't drag you, ignore their consequences in home (all they can do is take all your stuff away, and many parents are too soft to even do this), and the school will do jack shit to help the parent. I mean literally nothing. In addition to this, to meet their quota of graduates, the school will push kids on to the next grade who are failing ALL their classes, kids who have missed 30+ days of school in a single semester. I'm not kidding, schools do nothing to help parents who have a kid refusing to go to school and they care not one iota that a kid is not getting educated. All they care about is that their numbers fall within an acceptable range

So the legal system steps in. A parent will be charged a misdemeanor charge if their child under the age of 16 has missed a certain number of school days without a valid medical reason. That parent will be given a court date and then, possibly, the judge will create a deferment program. I don't know how this always plays out, but one would hope the parent is eventually given the option to send their child to a boarding school. For kids with extreme defiant behaviors, the ONLY way you are going to get them to be educated is to make them live and sleep at their school

Oh and kids in specialized public school classrooms for having an IEP due to ED (emotional disabilities, NOT learning disabilities) are often not being educated. They are being essentially babysat. These kids are often just babysat all day and pushed onto the next grade due to quotas, to eventually become non-functional adults

I might be jaded because I see only the worst kids all day at work, but attendance /truancy to me seems to be a big problem that schools seem to give zero shits about

Oh and being allowed to drop out at 16 sucks. I never ever mention this to kids I see at work, don't even want to put that idea in their head

[Gravydoo II]

How about that jan 6th riot??

We still calling it a tour group that got out of hand?

Steve bannon is running from the american people. I wonder why he doesnt want to show up before congress.

[JurisDictum]

I see charter schools as a great example of something that is a perfectly good idea on an individual level. But its a terrible macro trend. Its like a big white flag for the public school system. It's a sign that eventually you wont be able to make a public education work at all for college-going kids, and they will come exclusively from the ranks of charter and private schools.

Charter schools seem to amount to a kind of parental selection process. Certain kids are filtered out -- the ones with severe mental or behavioral problems. Nevertheless, most the selection is done at the parent level. There is a certain amount of hoops to jump through and commitments to make -- this filters out dysfunctional and overwhelmed parents. It also ensures they are engaged with their education to some extent.

Wouldn't you know it -- they tend to out perform public schools. Now they are all over the damn place because its a good business model. The model is to get young teachers that can't get a good job in the public school system yet. They are passionate at this phase of their career and will put up with terrible work conditions so they can help kids.

Where does that money saved go? Well as much as possible goes to the private owners of the institution. Unfortunately, some has to go to the kids to make the school look better than the public one down the street. But as the public system deteriorates, that amount of overhead should shrink.

[Horza]

Republican congressman and white supremacist Paul Gosar just posted the cringest thing I've ever seen.

[Jibartik]

public schools dont work anymore because people would rather cut the kid in half than let a person teach them that disagrees with them about social politics.

[Gatordash]

Originally Posted by Horza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Republican congressman and white supremacist Paul Gosar just posted the cringest thing I've ever seen.

Didn't turn the volume on but seemed like a pretty standard political ad to me. The banner on his twitter profile of Trump is cringey though.