the i dont care about politics anymore thread

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by Elizondo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I dunno man

Greed has done lot more for the betterment of people's lives than socialism

Strange how it failed us here then.

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Strange how it failed us here then.

Naw man

Hasn't failed at all. Hope you cheer up. It's a beautiful day outside.

[Ooloo]

Socialism only works on paper because you're assuming you care about strangers as much as you care about your own (friends, family). This is fundamentally opposed to human nature. It's appealing in a utopian sense, but never ever works out on large scales because human nature is not so simple.

The self-interested nature of capitalism incentivizes people to produce goods and services for the betterment of the broadest group possible, because the producer wants to make as much money as possible. It may seem greedy, and in many cases it is, but the net result is that more people have more access to more things. Hence, the United States is the most productive, prosperous, abundant and most importantly *generous* nation in world history. We directly subsidize the military of dozens of countries, we provide humanitarian aid in the billions to dozens of countries, all while being spat upon for our terrible greed.

You need to think outside of black and white notions of "utopia good" and understand what actually works and what doesn't.

[Whale biologist]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Socialism only works on paper because you're assuming you care about strangers as much as you care about your own (friends, family). This is fundamentally opposed to human nature. It's appealing in a utopian sense, but never ever works out on large scales because human nature is not so simple.

The self-interested nature of capitalism incentivizes people to produce goods and services for the betterment of the broadest group possible, because the producer wants to make as much money as possible. It may seem greedy, and in many cases it is, but the net result is that more people have more access to more things. Hence, the United States is the most productive, prosperous, abundant and most importantly *generous* nation in world history. We directly subsidize the military of dozens of countries, we provide humanitarian aid in the billions to dozens of countries, all while being spat upon for our terrible greed.

You need to think outside of black and white notions of "utopia good" and understand what actually works and what doesn't.

This America of your imagination sounds like a capitalist utopia, friend. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by Whale biologist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This America of your imagination sounds like a capitalist utopia, friend. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cool non-answer. What part of it is wrong?

I'm simply reporting world history for the last 100 years, friend.

Which socialist or communist nation is providing military and humanitarian aid in the billions to other allied nations? Like, all you have to do is name one.

[JurisDictum]

Here's a philosophical question for the board at large:

Do you deserve wealth that is inherited?

Not legally. Obviously its legal and should remain so for the foreseeable future.

But in a cosmic "whats right" sort of sense. Can it be justified as a fair thing and not merely a practical thing.

[Whale biologist]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cool non-answer. What part of it is wrong?

I'm simply reporting world history for the last 100 years, friend.

Which socialist or communist nation is providing military and humanitarian aid in the billions to other allied nations? Like, all you have to do is name one.

I don't think I need to answer your deformed utopian propagandizing?

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's a philosophical question for the board at large:

Do you deserve wealth that is inherited?

Not legally. Obviously its legal and should remain so for the foreseeable future.

But in a cosmic "whats right" sort of sense. Can it be justified as a fair thing and not merely a practical thing.

If a man builds a house with his bare hands does his family have a right to live in it?

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The self-interested nature of capitalism incentivizes people to produce goods and services for the betterment of the broadest group possible, because the producer wants to make as much money as possible. It may seem greedy, and in many cases it is, but the net result is that more people have more access to more things. Hence, the United States is the most productive, prosperous, abundant and most importantly *generous* nation in world history. We directly subsidize the military of dozens of countries, we provide humanitarian aid in the billions to dozens of countries, all while being spat upon for our terrible greed.

You need to think outside of black and white notions of "utopia good" and understand what actually works and what doesn't.

How do we know capitalism is the big reason for the success of the United States -- and not the giant military you referenced?

Given that every single country in existence is capitalist to some extent these days, why is America more economically powerful than the rest of them?

[Whale biologist]

But my friend, this is the least rotten apple of the whole bushel!

You must bow down in worship to this perfect apple.