2020 Post Election MEGAthread

[imperiouskitten]

btw Baler, i think i am gonna kick the dope again soon which i am prescribed. my hands finally "rounded the turn". I'll get on it as soon as I know this isn't another honeymoon period, there have been those in the past but this one is definitely different. typing by hand again is so fun.

so dont look down on me. uve never lost ur arms nor legs in horrific pain I reckon. I don't even drink beers you know! juris and me party with energy drinks (i dont let him smoke pot no mo). I think plato said socrates said that philosophers are supposed to have tasted every single pleasure anyway, although i know they were f@gs and you arent down with that. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this post deserves a million upboats btw. For 2 years I have earnestly believed I lost fine motor control for life and was doomed to constant excruciation forever. but it just came back online just like that in the last 6 weeks or so, after my husband invented this nerve floss technique that unstuck my little strings. (better physical therapist than Lune)

[Jibartik]

I wish I could fast travel to the first major event that defines what this new election means for the next 4 years lol

[douglas1999]

I've made this point a million times, but it bares repeating: Cops do not have a responsibility to wait until they themselves get shot, stabbed or killed before they deploy lethal force. People will often bend over backward to make excuses for the criminal offenders who die as a direct result of their own actions, but can't even give a cop the benefit of the doubt when they shoot somebody who is charging them with a knife, after they have repeatedly told them to put it down. Does this mean that cops never fuck up and kill somebody unjustly? Obviously no. Does it mean there aren't legitimate cases of psychos becoming cops on a power trip? Obviously no. But *all* of the recent police shootings that have resulted in rioting were completely, obviously justified shootings.

George floyd wasn't even a shooting, he almost certainly died as a result of a fentanyl overdose. He was saying that he couldn't breath way before the cops even put him on the ground, which by the way he *asked them to do*. He said "put me on the ground man", and they did. People can't get beyond the optics though. Dead guy is black, cop is white (even though often they aren't even white), so let's riot! Who cares that jacob blake showed up to his ex-girlfriend's house because SHE called the cops and he was violating a restraining order and ignoring every single chance they gave him to simply stop, and they tried tazing him and it didn't work, and then he opened his car door and reached in. What the hell would *you* do in that situation, if you were the cop? It's a valuable question to ask yourself.

I used to be a very punk anarchist super lefty fuck the police type, then I thought about whether I would ever want to do their job and realized; oh FUCK no.

[imperiouskitten]

I can get beyond the optics dude, I checked the coroner's report and it's plausible he died of a fentanyl OD even tho not conclusive. But fent OD doesn't explain why he was wildin out. Opiates don't make you wild out and flap your arms. He didn't panic because of opiates. It's not marijuana or LSD, no anxiety potential, you don't have a paradoxical response to opiates. And it's not an 80s movie where you pop a pill and then jump off a roof cause you believe you're invincible. Or see cartoon elephants. The fentanyl thing is a nonsequitur. Whether the guy died of the knee on the neck or not literally doesn't matter.

Fact is, he had a knee on his neck long enough to kill him. So the cop did wrong. It's your bad luck if you drive your car thru a crowd in Charlottesville and a bowled-over whale gets a heart attack and dies; that makes you a terrorist. Get your knee off his neck if you don't want credit for the perhaps incidental death.

[douglas1999]

Originally Posted by imperiouskitten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can get beyond the optics dude, I checked the coroner's report and it's plausible he died of a fentanyl OD even tho not conclusive. But fent OD doesn't explain why he was wildin out. Opiates don't make you wild out and flap your arms. He didn't panic because of opiates. It's not marijuana or LSD, no anxiety potential, you don't have a paradoxical response to opiates. And it's not an 80s movie where you pop a pill and then jump off a roof cause you believe you're invincible. Or see cartoon elephants. The fentanyl thing is a nonsequitur. Whether the guy died of the knee on the neck or not literally doesn't matter.

Fact is, he had a knee on his neck long enough to kill him. So the cop did wrong. It's your bad luck if you drive your car thru a crowd in Charlottesville and a bowled-over whale gets a heart attack and dies; that makes you a terrorist. Get your knee off his neck if you don't want credit for the perhaps incidental death.

He died long afterward at the hospital, he did not die from the knee. If you've ever seen an MMA match, people go unconscious within about 5 seconds of a choke hold. He was on the ground with the knee for 7 minutes, and slowly faded into unconsciousness, which is *completely* consistent with either a heart attack or a drug overdose. He also had methamphetamine in his system, it wasn't just fentanyl, so yeah he may have been having a paranoid psychotic break. And I already said the knee was over the top anyway.

That's all beside the point though; the point is that the way his death was portrayed in the media, the way the cops involved were treated, the way people rioted for *6 months* over this random guy dying because *he* made a series of terrible choices over many years, is completely batshit crazy. There were like 5 year old kids wearing T-Shirts with his face on them; a guy who robbed a pregnant woman at gunpoint. He had a fucking 4 day long funeral with a gold casket. Meanwhile when a good cop with a family gets blasted in the face during a routine traffic stop, nobody gives a shit. No fanfare, no mass media coverage, no riots, no protests. It's pure theater. So much emotional manipulation over a tragic, but completely unremarkable event that just happened to go viral on social media.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by douglas1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He died long afterward at the hospital, he did not die from the knee. If you've ever seen an MMA match, people go unconscious within about 5 seconds of a choke hold. He was on the ground with the knee for 7 minutes, and slowly faded into unconsciousness, which is *completely* consistent with either a heart attack or a drug overdose. He also had methamphetamine in his system, it wasn't just fentanyl, so yeah he may have been having a paranoid psychotic break. And I already said the knee was over the top anyway.

That's all beside the point though; the point is that the way his death was portrayed in the media, the way the cops involved were treated, the way people rioted for *6 months* over this random guy dying because *he* made a series of terrible choices over many years, is completely batshit crazy. There were like 5 year old kids wearing T-Shirts with his face on them; a guy who robbed a pregnant woman at gunpoint. He had a fucking 4 day long funeral with a gold casket. Meanwhile when a good cop with a family gets blasted in the face during a routine traffic stop, nobody gives a shit. No fanfare, no mass media coverage, no riots, no protests. It's pure theater. So much emotional manipulation over a tragic, but completely unremarkable event that just happened to go viral on social media.

I'm not saying I support all the protests, but to be fair if you can't understand that they aren't rioting over this single individual than you are extremely extremely clueless

[douglas1999]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not saying I support all the protests, but to be fair if you can't understand that they aren't rioting over this single individual than you are extremely extremely clueless

Yes, I understand that. That doesn't exactly bolster their cause, because almost every single individual they are rioting over, with a couple noteworthy exceptions, was a completely justified police shooting, based on the actions of the person being shot. And even in the rare cases where the shooting was unjustified, it doesn't automatically make it racially motivated, which is their central claim. It just doesn't stand up to even cursory scrutiny.

Meanwhile, David Dorn, who was a black police chief with a wife and kids murdered in cold blood by a rioter, is utterly ignored by "black lives matter". Their messaging is just completely incoherent, is my point. And when one brings this up, you're suddenly accused of "politicizing" the issue. Like nope, I'm just pointing out the overwhelmingly retarded hypocrisy that is plain as day for anybody to see if they can let go of their comfortable tribal affiliations.

[Woke Locc]

Originally Posted by douglas1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, I understand that. That doesn't exactly bolster their cause, because almost every single individual they are rioting over, with a couple noteworthy exceptions, was a completely justified police shooting, based on the actions of the person being shot. And even in the rare cases where the shooting was unjustified, it doesn't automatically make it racially motivated, which is their central claim. It just doesn't stand up to even cursory scrutiny.

Meanwhile, David Dorn, who was a black police chief with a wife and kids murdered in cold blood by a rioter, is utterly ignored by "black lives matter". Their messaging is just completely incoherent, is my point. And when one brings this up, you're suddenly accused of "politicizing" the issue. Like nope, I'm just pointing out the overwhelmingly retarded hypocrisy that is plain as day for anybody to see if they can let go of their comfortable tribal affiliations.

Hypocrisy is a child's argument

[BarnabusCollins]

Have you figured out yet, why things are the way they are? I have.

[Jibartik]

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