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Old 10-12-2021, 02:09 AM
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We are headed down exactly the same tract as NK with our heavy dependence on chemicals and industrial fertilizers. We are just on a slow burn.
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My first name is God's will. My second is look. And helper of the priest. You're all doomed. Turn away from sin.
Politics? = Sin.
God, by being deemed tax free (by men) is simply a political instrument to confuse the simple minded.
Skyfairy worshipers lack imagination and refuse to accept that religions are basically "nice rules to live by". Nothing more.
Dont steal shit.
Dont shag the neighhors wife. Etc.
Good grief.
The son died on the cross = The sun goes down on the crux (southern cross).
Pleased to be leaving "god" out of serious political discussions. He just confuses you.
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Old 10-12-2021, 02:11 AM
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there are too many varieties of Americans for me to allow UBI everyone in skandanavia is the same, but if joe bob gets UBI to buy meth and drive tractors off bridges then im gonna revolt.

and id rather we had our funny factions than try to game theory starvation when we have solved with our current system.

People forget that until factory farming starvation was a way bigger epidemic than it is today, but we just refuse to give credit to the empire.
Well that argument does partially explain why they started developing as a socialist state. They had a strong working class identity of people exactly like them.

But if your talking like, single payer healthcare and free/cheap college. You can see Russia and all kinds of other countries with a bunch of sectarian violence pull it off.

Russian healthcare sucks. But making it 100% private...basically zero evidence that would help. There's also not a lot of evidence that it sucks because it is single payer. It sucks because Russia is doing it.

And we suck when doing healthcare too. We have good 1st world healthcare here -- so that's not a problem. The problem is not everyone has access to it, and we are paying out the ass for it on a macro level.

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“Healthcare is the tapeworm of the American economy,” Warren Buffett famously told CNBC in 2018, when presenting Haven. Indeed, the size of the market—fueled by costs exponentially higher than in any other country in the world—continues to expand relentlessly, and is projected to make up 20% of America’s GDP by 2028. But the results of this spending are paradoxical: Americans live shorter, less healthy lives than their peers in other countries, while suffering from an epidemic of bankruptcies related to medical issues (an estimated 66.5% of all bankruptcy filings are caused by medical expenses).
https://qz.com/1952225/why-amazon-be...-haven-failed/

We gave the market a shot. And again, and again..etc

It's not going to work. Single payer is pretty much inevitable. And it will probably be done by a progressive democrat 30-40 years from now when a lot of the current voter base is dead. You're not going to sell the boomer generation in their golden years that their lazy friend they knew in 1973 should get anything. He could have got a good job at any time!
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Old 10-12-2021, 02:25 AM
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We are headed down exactly the same tract as NK with our heavy dependence on chemicals and industrial fertilizers. We are just on a slow burn.

Millions of ppl die *suffer horrific slow very expensive deaths that make C-suite rich AF whilst draining tax funds and political or human capital in futile and fruitless gesturs* in America every year because they aren't free and can't feed themselves and they have easier access to drugs or herpes. Or whatever. So same problems. Less newsworthy and hospice gets facebookpoints.

It's objectively "less cruel" and shocking at face value. Yet most of you have absolutely no idea. Yes. Even the hardcorest psychos who macaquest feed off this system that leaves millions of anorexic, cancerous, obese and somehow simultaneously malnurished spiritually corrupt and godless except in name only corpses in its wake.

My first name is God's will. My second is look. And helper of the priest. You're all doomed. Turn away from sin.
Well there's problems we can solve with government policy. And then their people slipping into a nihilistic spiritual crisis that we can't really pass a program and throw money at to fix. A lot of these sad fucks are already rich and in therapy.

The Christian right kind of took advantage of the spiritual rot in America. Getting people 100% committed to their narrow understanding of the bible and western values was a lot more of the goal than invading Iraq. But that's the problem with these political movements; they are easy to infiltrate with an actual political agenda.

Some on the left have been trying some kind of stupid version of this. They get all new agey and start talking like were on a Buddhist retreat -- so we can what? Repeal the Salt tax and then raise the corporate rate a little?

Luckily its not as powerful of an institution as the super churches down south and in the midwest were.
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Old 10-12-2021, 02:31 AM
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Well that argument does partially explain why they started developing as a socialist state. They had a strong working class identity of people exactly like them.

But if your talking like, single payer healthcare and free/cheap college. You can see Russia and all kinds of other countries with a bunch of sectarian violence pull it off.

Russian healthcare sucks. But making it 100% private...basically zero evidence that would help. There's also not a lot of evidence that it sucks because it is single payer. It sucks because Russia is doing it.

And we suck when doing healthcare too. We have good 1st world healthcare here -- so that's not a problem. The problem is not everyone has access to it, and we are paying out the ass for it on a macro level.



https://qz.com/1952225/why-amazon-be...-haven-failed/

We gave the market a shot. And again, and again..etc

It's not going to work. Single payer is pretty much inevitable. And it will probably be done by a progressive democrat 30-40 years from now when a lot of the current voter base is dead. You're not going to sell the boomer generation in their golden years that their lazy friend they knew in 1973 should get anything. He could have got a good job at any time!
Big brain moment here.

They govbois could leave Medicare intact. Start single payer. Just cut off ppl born after 81 from medicare. Subsidize the old carpet baggers and call it a day.

No one has any real savings in this country though and they shouldn't when a few rabies boosters where billed at $78,000. The VA didn't accept it. Tho. Technically the VA isn't billing me. So..

Like wtf ppl.
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Old 10-12-2021, 06:14 AM
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Ever think about how bizarrely coincidental it is that one network is far right while the rest are far left and none are moderate(or unbiased)?

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Old 10-12-2021, 06:54 AM
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Ever think about how bizarrely coincidental it is that one network is far right while the rest are far left and none are moderate(or unbiased)?
Yes.
It only takes one stupid thing to fuck it for everyone else.
Plus only sensational confronting stuff gets boring peoples attention. We are happy with mediocrity so its normal.
Politicians are vampire baby eater/fuckers headlines get more attention than Hey, thanks for caring about others by taking some time out of your busy days and reducing your "freedoms", even for those you dont like.
Wait, what?
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Old 10-12-2021, 11:16 AM
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Ever think about how bizarrely coincidental it is that one network is far right while the rest are far left and none are moderate(or unbiased)?

24 hour news channels have to find a slant because they are on all day. Watch your local news, its pretty moderate and unbiased no matter what channel its on.
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Old 10-12-2021, 11:44 AM
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Ever think about how bizarrely coincidental it is that one network is far right while the rest are far left and none are moderate(or unbiased)?

I imagine the point here is that both are actually moderate?

I know for a fact Tim Pool is. I dunno much about Russel. Neither have any real political experience but I bet Tim Pool knows a bit more about politics than Russel
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Old 10-12-2021, 11:52 AM
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We are headed down exactly the same tract as NK with our heavy dependence on chemicals and industrial fertilizers. We are just on a slow burn.
Should America be self-sufficient? As in, able to produce everything we need domestically? This is a trick!

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Politics? = Sin.
God, by being deemed tax free (by men) is simply a political instrument to confuse the simple minded.
Skyfairy worshipers lack imagination and refuse to accept that religions are basically "nice rules to live by". Nothing more.
Dont steal shit.
Dont shag the neighhors wife. Etc.
Good grief.
The son died on the cross = The sun goes down on the crux (southern cross).
Pleased to be leaving "god" out of serious political discussions. He just confuses you.
Or not.
Hey buddy look at what's happened since we killed the poor old bastard(the second time). Not a great track record for the Law of Man.
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Old 10-12-2021, 11:59 AM
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Big brain moment here.

They govbois could leave Medicare intact. Start single payer. Just cut off ppl born after 81 from medicare. Subsidize the old carpet baggers and call it a day.

No one has any real savings in this country though and they shouldn't when a few rabies boosters where billed at $78,000. The VA didn't accept it. Tho. Technically the VA isn't billing me. So..

Like wtf ppl.
That would indict Medicare by comparison, old people cost a lot more than not-old people. Good idea!

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24 hour news channels have to find a slant because they are on all day. Watch your local news, its pretty moderate and unbiased no matter what channel its on.
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