The Al'Kabor Project (PC/Mac) EQmac - EverQuest done right

[Secrets]

Originally Posted by apio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just quoting this so you don't delete it.

That statement is ridiculous, get a reality check

The developers of Project 2002 were by far the biggest contributors to TAK, and will probably be for a very long time.

What's more silly is you both are arguing about a project that is supposed to be a community project. I'd rather see both projects contribute and have only the contributions matter. I'm also appalled that there was drama to begin with. I'm in regular contact with Speedz and he's not this villain that you make him out to be. Likewise I've had nothing but good interactions with Arm and Hammered during the initial launch of the server. Yes, both sides lost their temper at times (like this forum post) but to split my baby into two servers is a bit insulting on both sides.

You both have contributed in your own ways. Stop the fucking bickering. EQMac was one server, one community. And it certainly didn't appeal to the P99 crowd when I started this project; I did it for ALL players, not just one group of them. For the longest time there wasn't even GM interaction on SOE's Al`Kabor. Maybe it should stay that way.

[Torven]

Originally Posted by apio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That statement is ridiculous, get a reality check

The developers of Project 2002 were by far the biggest contributors to TAK, and will probably be for a very long time.

What, you mean aside from these people: http://www.takproject.net/forums/ind...oject-team.19/

I specifically said Wharhog and Stairs, because they were hanging out in our dev-only chat room telling your guild everything we were discussing while having stopped contributing (Stairs in particular) because Speedz made them mad one day or something. On top of that Stairs was posting in this thread on an anonymous account badmouthing us and the server. (if it's not Stairs, it's a close associate of his at the minimum) When they were removed from the channel they of course threw a fit. I delayed Speedz from booting them earlier simply because I thought it better to put up with some bullshit rather than lose potential contributors, but eventually he had enough.

Yes, when only considering the feedback-giving regular users, several Armed members were at or near the top of the list for contributors (perhaps you at the top). You were not 'developers' for TAKP though.

I even said in IRC what a shame it was that you couldn't get along with us better because your contributions were significant. Speedz doesn't like it when you bad mouth devs for disagreeing with them, what can I say. I didn't want you banned and tried to stick up for you, then you pasted our private conversation for others to see, which made me think twice about being candid with any of you in private.

[Circa.]

whats this server's website ? That OP one looks dead as hell.

[surron]

Originally Posted by Circa. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

whats this server's website ? That OP one looks dead as hell.

hmm not sure what you mean by dead as hell. there are active posts going on now and the latest server update was 2 days ago

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Circa. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

whats this server's website ? That OP one looks dead as hell.

It's a shit way of doing things. Until you log in on those forums you see very very little in terms of active posts... similar to going on a guild's website.

[Flamewraith]

No matter how you spin it, the takp server went from having a 200 pop to a 50 max pop. You can't use the "it will get better with planes" excuse anymore. You can CLEARLY see the drop in pop happened when bans started flying left and right, and all these crazy rules went into place. My god could you fucking imagine if these same GM's had to handle p99? Bullets flew with 200 pop, that place would explode at the seams with 1400 pop.

[Secrets]

Originally Posted by Flamewraith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No matter how you spin it, the takp server went from having a 200 pop to a 50 max pop. You can't use the "it will get better with planes" excuse anymore. You can CLEARLY see the drop in pop happened when bans started flying left and right, and all these crazy rules went into place. My god could you fucking imagine if these same GM's had to handle p99? Bullets flew with 200 pop, that place would explode at the seams with 1400 pop.

I don't think any single one of us cares about the server population or what it might end up at. This is a preservation project, not a pissing content.

[Flamewraith]

Originally Posted by Secrets [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think any single one of us cares about the server population or what it might end up at. This is a preservation project, not a pissing content.

Hey I'm sorry if I offended you with my last post, it was very hostile I will admit. Like I said the server has chilled waaaaay out since the initial mortal kombat scene, but the way that things were handled was very extreme.

[Torven]

Originally Posted by Flamewraith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No matter how you spin it, the takp server went from having a 200 pop to a 50 max pop. You can't use the "it will get better with planes" excuse anymore. You can CLEARLY see the drop in pop happened when bans started flying left and right, and all these crazy rules went into place. My god could you fucking imagine if these same GM's had to handle p99? Bullets flew with 200 pop, that place would explode at the seams with 1400 pop.

I'm not going to lie; you're not entirely wrong. However your numbers are exaggerated. There are three dragon killing capable guilds active right now. (or near it anyway)

The community basically split into the hardcores and the carebears on two servers. (with some exceptions) TAKP voted rotations and has a low tolerance for rudeness. Speedz and Rob want to try and recreate the EQMac atmosphere and it's their server to do so. I prefer something closer to p99-like rules, myself.

Secrets is right in that I/we never signed up for this to make a single server. My original goal was to merely document and parse the game before the opportunity was lost forever-- for the benefit of all emus. I wasn't even a dev until long after I started data collecting. They asked me to help so I did.

We want the project to get to the point where anybody can download it, use a simple installer, and have a working high-quality classic server running in minutes. The only thing that matters is that classic EQ lives on. When EQ1 shuts down for good one day, the emus are all that's left. Daybreak won't open source it and there are no EQ clones unlike the millions of WoW clones.

[nagmarr]

Oh well, TAKP has certainly moved on since A & H left to make their server. If population numbers are an issue for you, then don't play there. Honestly the "Numbers" aren't really an issue for the large majority of the server. It just seems like a talking point for those that would, to take a jab at the server and growing community, so if it sways you one way or the other, oh well. There were just under 100 in alliance when i logged on yesterday. There's plenty to do, and plenty of people to interact with, at various times. And lots of room for growth. The content is somewhat limited atm anyways. This server will grow and grow and be around for years to come. - If you are looking for a change you might like the perspective you get which is so different from many other servers. TAKP isn't going to be everyones cup of Tea, just like p99 isn't everyone's cup of tea. And AK/EQMAC wasn't everyone's cup of tea! But it's a good server with friendly people, and allot of people putting time and work in to it. it's more or less drama free at this point, and there are allot of people working hard on all levels to make it an awesome throwback to EQMac aka Al'Kabor. I would encourage anyone to pop over to takproject.net and check it out. If you have any questions specific to TAKP feel free to PM me and i'll do my best to answer them, or you can send me a tell in game.
Oiwon