BDA to Phinigel

[Llodd]

I would prob have a go at it if they didnt release the expacs so bloody fast.

1 expac yearly or even every two years would be awesome.

[Metalopolis]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll be curious to see whether A/A are still poopsocking everything when everyone else leaves.

Prolly not. Gotta remember that, for them, it's not just about gearing/progressing their toons. Equally important to many of them is denying gear/progression of others. The so called "exclusivity" of it.

[Raev]

I think Al'Kabor type servers are more for people who don't mind a slower pace and are curious to level an alt army. I imagine TAKP converging to a ~5 guild rotation of mostly single boxes (currently 2 and about to jump to 3, and people 2-3 box a lot).

I really think CSG should just switch en masse to TAKP. The server staff are committed to rotations vs 'competition'. You can level up really easily with the XP bonus (which should be fixed IMO). The 1 year per expansion and PoP lock seems to match their more relaxed playstyle more than the Phinny 3 months per expansion firehose.

I'm also going to predict here that the next progression server has more classic mechanics. From what I hear Daybreak is doing more and more to try to make their progression servers more accurate. And remember: Daybreak released Phinny just as Project 1999 was releasing Velious. I had no idea that people were still going to be socking P99 hard a year after Velious launched, and I'm guessing a lot of others didn't either. If a new progression server launches this summer, and you are FoH/Venerate, why not switch?

[khysanth]

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[Murri]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Al'Kabor had longevity due to a few factors.

• Older code base made the game just progress slower. DPS was lower, spells were less powerful, there were fewer AAs, the client forces slower playstyle due to how limiting it is.
• Obscurity with a Mac client / PC Hack client lead to a very small population. Basically even the top guild was running with 30-35 mains during low times and 40-45 during high times. Doing events like Bertoxxulous, Rallos Zek, PoAir/Earth Rings, Coirnav, Rathe Council with only 40~ mains and 5 boxes is just not feasible.
• No 85/15 backflag rule and the lack of checklist flags meant EVERY person who was flagged in Elemental Planes did their flags in order and was required to have every single one. Same with PoTime. Having to devote a few weeks out of every few months to doing an entire backflag cycle to flag 3-4 new recruits was a huge time sink.

Now... I would probably still play an EQLive POP locked server. But it wouldn't have the long lasting effect that Al'Kabor had.

When your spells do 25%~ more damage or heals due to updated spell values, when your Melee parse 25-50% more due to updated Melee tables, when you only need to do PoP flagging once or twice and then just do EP Gods to backflag for each EP by hailing the Essence at the end, or doing PoTime for the P3 backflag drops... there isn't much of a struggle to get into Time and stay there, and of course having 72 members on your raid makes all content trivial. It's not until they cut down raids to 54 man where the challenge in the raids is very substantial and the tiers of guilds show up by who can and who cannot beat the content.

Phinigel will beat PoTime within the week I suspect. I wouldn't be too surprised if some guild is in Elemental Planes in the next day or two. Would be similar on any time locked PoP server.

Also when the revamped plane of mischief certain people who lived in that zone were pissed. Mac server had the pre revamp version forever.

[Daldaen]

Eh yea.. mischief had a very small subset of weirdos who lived there though.

[Llodd]

Originally Posted by bigbard1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They released xpacs at 2 a year until the late 2000s. We are at 1 every 3 months here which keeps it fresh. Or you could play on p99 and play Kunark for 5 years.

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1 every 3 months is off putting for casual scum.

[Papa]

there's nothing that says you have to be in a guild that is doing the most current content on phinny.

find a group of people you like and go at your own pace /shrug

that said, suggesting even slower xpac releases is crazy. even for guilds who don't race to be the first to beat the xpac, it gets boring toward the end.

[Llodd]

Ofc not. But I like the advantages doing the same content as others provides.

[Daldaen]

There can only be one. PoP gonna be good.