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Old 07-11-2013, 11:40 PM
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Zimmerman was aware of the SYG law, and I guarantee you it was in his mind when he got out of that car packing a gun. You're an idiot if you can't see that. There's no way he would have pursued Martin without the gun. Martin wasn't a female, after all, as Zimmerman soon found out.
um, what?

you're now guaranteeing what was going through zimmerman's mind when he got out of his car? going to go ahead and just ignore that, so as not to wade through that depth of stupidity.

but you don't seem to understand that even if he DID know about SYG, and even if it was on his mind, it was totally irrelevant because the facts of this case have nothing to do with SYG. he didn't need SYG. this could have happened in a non-SYG state and nothing would be substantially different. based on your comments, i do not believe you know anything about SYG, the difference between murder 2 and manslaughter, this case, or even the law in general.

but naturally, you have an extremely strong opinion on the subject.
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Old 07-11-2013, 11:41 PM
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It has to with his character and habit of being a fucking asshole with an anger problem. The kind that gets you into fights. The kind that might make you want to kill the kid who is kicking your ass because your ego can't take an ass kicking like a man.
I'm not going to debate you man. As this is going no where.

You can't convict someone of a crime based on their past without evidence.
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Old 07-11-2013, 11:41 PM
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You'd be an excellent juror. lol..
So clearly...
1)You haven't read the thread (or you would see I said he shouldn't be found guilty)
2)You don't understand the difference between innocent and not guilty
3)You don't understand the concept of witness credibility
Maybe you're just a troll, or maybe just a dumbass. But I'm done with you ether way.
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Old 07-11-2013, 11:42 PM
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It's the whole point of the fucking case, you fucking idiot.
No, it's not. You are only demonstrating willful ignorance when you make such statements. I don't expect you to have read all 30+ pages of the thread, but I do expect you to check your legal theories when you're presented with evidence that you're mistaken.

However, since you seem to know the relevant laws, I respectfully request that you explain how the elements of SYG apply here in the face of Zimmerman's defense that he was pinned and unable to safely withdraw.

I eagerly await your detailed analysis of the relevant state law.
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Old 07-11-2013, 11:43 PM
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So clearly...
1)You haven't read the thread (or you would see I said he shouldn't be found guilty)
2)You don't understand the difference between innocent and not guilty
3)You don't understand the concept of witness credibility
Maybe you're just a troll, or maybe just a dumbass. But I'm done with you ether way.
Or maybe you just put your foot in your mouth and drool all over it.
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Old 07-11-2013, 11:44 PM
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According to you, the person has to have a literal history of committing the exact same crime that he's being accused of in order to have the appropriate "style" for the crime.

So you'd also be a wonderful juror. I don't think they let juggalos be jurors, though.
i imagine he was laughing at you because you claimed there was "no reason to presume zimmerman is innocent", when the entire american criminal trial system is founded upon a presumption of innocence.
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Old 07-11-2013, 11:45 PM
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i do not discriminate. i sell my wares in accordance with the 2nd amendment of this great country. if you do not like gun shows, do not attend. if rednecks are in need of armament, i am a simple peddler of goods.

don't blame me for finding a lucrative field while promoting the ideals this great nation was founded upon. i use some of my excess for good anyway, i am very generous with my church and the troops
Your guilty concious may be healed but you are still a blood profiteer any way you slice it.

Worse than an Abortion doctor imo.
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Old 07-11-2013, 11:45 PM
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Your guilty concious may be healed but you are still a blood profiteer any way you slice it.

Worse than an Abortion doctor imo.
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Old 07-11-2013, 11:47 PM
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i imagine he was laughing at you because you claimed there was "no reason to presume zimmerman is innocent", when the entire american criminal trial system is founded upon a presumption of innocence.
They don't find people innocent in courtrooms.
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Old 07-11-2013, 11:49 PM
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i imagine he was laughing at you because you claimed there was "no reason to presume zimmerman is innocent", when the entire american criminal trial system is founded upon a presumption of innocence.
Ding ding ding.

Al Pacino speech inc:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjFWddzhtUI
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