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Old 07-24-2014, 04:51 AM
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if a religious government and an areligious government are going to commit the same exact atrocities, what possible difference does the associated rhetoric make? it's window dressing
Like the eugenics wars, when this happens, we can talk.
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Old 07-24-2014, 09:22 AM
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I'm interested to hear what everyone's thoughts on population control are.
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Old 07-24-2014, 02:27 PM
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I'm interested to hear what everyone's thoughts on population control are.
What do you think is happening right now in the middle east and in Ukraine? Instead of spending money to kill people they've found a really easy way to profit from it.

Gun-free zones work wonders too.
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Old 07-24-2014, 02:29 PM
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Old 07-24-2014, 02:33 PM
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You forgot fedoras.
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Old 07-24-2014, 02:52 PM
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Like the eugenics wars, when this happens, we can talk.
it already has happened. areligious governments have murdered, tortured, starved, and ethnically cleansed on similar or greater scales than religious governments. there's no crime attributable to the crusaders that is not equally attributable to the nazis. religion has never been a necessary or sufficient component of mass murder
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Old 07-24-2014, 03:07 PM
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it already has happened. areligious governments have murdered, tortured, starved, and ethnically cleansed on similar or greater scales than religious governments. there's no crime attributable to the crusaders that is not equally attributable to the nazis. religion has never been a necessary or sufficient component of mass murder
If you are actually implying that WWII began exclusively because the Germans wanted to exterminate the Jews, you are about as misinformed about history as that guy who went on national television last week and said The Trail of Tears never happened.
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Old 07-24-2014, 03:12 PM
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Old 07-24-2014, 03:23 PM
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If you are actually implying that WWII began exclusively because the Germans wanted to exterminate the Jews, you are about as misinformed about history as that guy who went on national television last week and said The Trail of Tears never happened.
i'm not implying anything. i'm saying exactly what i said, in as many words as i said it. the fact that you can read the quoted text and find an implication that killing jews was the "exclusive" impetus for WWII is terrifying.

again, i'll quote: "areligious governments have murdered, tortured, starved, and ethnically cleansed on similar or greater scales than religious governments. there's no crime attributable to the crusaders that is not equally attributable to the nazis. religion has never been a necessary or sufficient component of mass murder"
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Old 07-24-2014, 04:36 PM
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I'm agnostic simply because I cannot prove either. I think this is reasonable and if you think it's stupid, I don't care because it simply works for me. I'm not prejudice towards religious folk or atheists. I can google all of the "Who's right?" keywords but at the end of the day, theories and books written by alleged apostles are not enough for me to live by. I like sinning but I don't hurt others while I do it. Well, perhaps my loved ones but that's only because of their own convictions and beliefs.

So in the meantime, I'll continue treating people the way I prefer to be treated. If and when that moment comes that I am standing in line to be judged by the omnipotent rodent god Alshazhar, hopefully the argument of, "Sorry God, the internet made me doubt my faith in you." will hold up. If not, then there's nothing I can do about it anyways. I'd also like to point out one more thing. Let's say that Jesus was the son of god and the bible is right. Quite frankly, God has been a real dick and I'd rather hang out with Satan. Hell doesn't sound so bad once all your flesh burns off. Join the battle and fight demons as a sick-ass skeleton!
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