Why is training allowed on p99 in veeshan's peak? (poll asking your opinion)

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by Arteker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and better why not a solid answer . why when TR broke and u guys formed in secret again IB u broke the rotation?.

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[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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See quoted post for response to your idiotic comment, and return to rants and flames where trolls belong.

Train in any zone other than VP and see how well you are praised.

Your quoted post is completely pointless, it doesn't address what I stated (that you quoted) and it doesn't have any bearing on what Rogean has already stated.

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Train in any zone other than VP and see how well you are praised.

Your quoted post is completely pointless, it doesn't address what I stated (that you quoted) and it doesn't have any bearing on what Rogean has already stated.

Your initial comment on this thread is unnecessary and offers nothing aside from trollbait, in my opinion. You don't play here anymore by your own admission, so whats your interest in this thread?

Aside from trolling it that is.

[salimoneus]

Originally Posted by sanforce [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was watching Tiggles stream earlier tonight. When TMO went into VP, the ONLY people that were training were FE monks that were trying to delay the inevitable dragon kills. FE wasn't even attempting the mobs, they were just there to grief (2 monks - Xerxes and Huen I believe, and 1 cleric - Goodies). TMO wasn't crying, they laughed and shrugged it off, and then got the kills anyways. I don't see why other guild can't use some coordination and get the same thing accomplished. They must just all be that bad - can't handle the rules so the /cry and try to get the rules changed because their eq skills and organization is sub par. It's also unfortunate when FE griefs in VP because it gets the streams shut down. That being said, I think it is a nice change of pace from the other raid encounters, and I think that FE should be allowed to train in there if they want, even if they never actually attempt a VP mob.

Help me, Rogean. You're my only hope.

[Nietche]

Originally Posted by salimoneus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because this isn't intended to be an exact copy of classic, they do the best they can with the resources available. Comparing this project to a commercial product with millions of dollars in the budget is a complete waste of time.

The more rules and restrictions you impose, the more rules and restrictions that are going to be broken, the more petitions filed, the more petitions that need to be answered. In other words a bunch of bullshit on someone's plate. I don't think anyone wants to deal with that, at least I sure as hell wouldn't want to. So they opted to let nature take it's course. Can't say I blame them really.

So people either need to find a way to compete out in the wild, or stay in the safety of their caves and be happy to grab the leftover scraps. That's nature.

I find it vastly interesting that members of FE posted this thread to begin with, that they cry about how the rules in VP specifically result in griefing, that they argue that training should not be allowed because it isn't fun, that they whine about TMO being the primary instigators....then Tassiepants with the usual "smoke and mirrors" response basically supports Xerxes, Shinko (Huen), and Goodies' "griefing tools" in VP.

How is that not hypocritical?

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well you're bringing up 2 or 3 people playing within the rules given to them, not sure what relevance your post has within this thread. If people want to go spend hours training and it is allowed by the current rules, why would they not? That would be their prerogative.

The funny thing is I sincerely feel that VP without training would be a lot more fun.

Before the "definition police" enter the scene again,

Hypocrite:

1: a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion


2: a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings

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[radditsu]

I have stated my case repeatedly. I have refrained from trolling(in this forum). I find it interesting...and boring... to be trolled in a legit discussion thread. What we are seeing is a legit discussion continually trying to be derailed by people who would love for this to be bumped into the Rnf. Discuss the issue and stop trying to compare disparate things.

A) if eq was a sport we wouldn't be so fat
B) if it were professional we would be paid
C) in a game...rules should be consistent.
D) everquest is a game, this is a nostalgia simulator of an old game. It should have had its rules polished by now.
E)Fix it.

[Susano]

Originally Posted by Nietche [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hypocrite:

1: a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion


2: a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings

I'd say that most TMO would be well versed in the definition of this word, this member in particular.

[t0lkien]

That definition is not what it used to be, though it could include those things. A hypocrite was someone who pretended to be something they weren't, essentially, usually in a moral way.

Actually, this is a better definition: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hypocrite

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[timhutton]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Haha btw if anyone is interested you can download the kunark prima guide in.pdf form off of the internet. On page 24 or so there is a statement from verant interactives CSR rep regarding the implementation of an enforced play nice policy due to the training/griefing which took place through the first year of everquest's existance. I don't have it in front of me but he specifically states they made a play nice policy enforced by gms to prevent friendly players from quitting EQ due to the type of assfuckery that regularly occurs here.


Just thought that was an interesting find considering how many idiots we have here who are under the impression that training was ever allowed on live eq servers when literally all evidence points to the contrary. If I can find a way to turn the specific page I'm referring to into an image I can upload ill do it after work, if anyone else is interested its page 23 to 25 of the prima kunark guide I believe.

Thanks for pointing this out. I knew I kept my physical copy around for a reason. Highlighted the important bits, in case there was ever any doubt.

Implemented date, and original intent.. seems familiar:
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Contested spawns and player duty:
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Zone disruption/training/and guilds (some guilds have been raid suspended like 4 times now?):
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Training wasn't even allowed on red.. yet people argue it's ok on blue:
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Seems like a cop-out/crock of shit to me.

Let's play classic EverQuest bros.