End of the rotation? - Page 66

Nuktari · #**651** 02-02-2015, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mendo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I actually really enjoy the idea of working my way through a plane to get to the god and fighting him.

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Tiggles · #**652** 02-02-2015, 03:52 PM

So BDA's reasoning for making these tiers is to prepare smaller guilds for Velious so they don't get absorbed?

Does anyone believe that BDA is doing this for altruistic reasons and not just pixel greed?

My next concern is, How can Taken poopsock Trakanon with almost 80 people and not be moved into Class C?

WIll the staff allow a guild to run roughshod over the entire tier due to them not wanting to compete with TMO?

Ninjax · #**653** 02-02-2015, 03:56 PM

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Camping a toon at the orb means that you no longer have access to your toon and potentially can no longer play the game. I know you are just going to say "Go play some alts." What if people like their toon and would rather not play alts? They shouldn't raid then?
16 hours is a long time to not have access to your main toon. End the variance and then maybe we can talk about camping toons and losing access to them.

For me killing CT in an hour is stupid lame. That means you want us to train all of fear and rush CT. I understand that guilds do this to race each other for an FFA chance at CT but I actually really enjoy the idea of working my way through a plane to get to the god and fighting him.

Choices have consequences. If one decides they have more enjoyment going for a race and large rewards if successful they will do so, if not they will play an alt because that is more enjoyable.

So they are free to do what they find most enjoyable however their choice comes with a consequence now the consequences is one of their maximum enjoyment given the reality of choices they have. We don't exist at the quantum level where one can undertake different simultaneous actions so for us doing X comes at the expense of doing anything other than X. Oh well. If people want the loot enough they will camp their mains and play alts. If they don't then they are already choosing to do something they value more.

Man0warr · #**654** 02-02-2015, 03:57 PM

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Are you under the impression that BDA will be successful in Velious? lol

Who knows. I've killed every mob in Velious tens or hundreds of times in some cases when it was considered current content - I'm not worried about being successful against the mobs themselves.

I do know the rotation was stifling our mobilization and dulling our edge. It made us lazy and people weren't taking raiding seriously enough.

Mendo · #**655** 02-02-2015, 04:00 PM

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Not telling you to do anything, do what you want. But you won't be getting any mobs when Velious gets rid of the Classes/rotations/etc.

So at that point when Asgard dissolves and you join TMO you'll have to change your attitude.

I agree remove variance, but GMs don't want to do that because they don't want more poopsocking and we as a server haven't proven we wouldn't poopsock if that was the case.

If I wanted to join TMO I would have done so years ago. You guys with your "Asgard = TMO alt guild" thing cracks me up.

Man0warr · #**656** 02-02-2015, 04:00 PM

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So BDA's reasoning for making these tiers is to prepare smaller guilds for Velious so they don't get absorbed?

Does anyone believe that BDA is doing this for altruistic reasons and not just pixel greed?

Moreso worried about our own readiness for Velious than other guilds due to the rotation giving us excuses to mobilize slowly, not worry when unnecessary wipes happened, etc.

Outside of some Donal's BPs (which will be nerfed at launch anyways) there isn't any loot outside VP that BDA really requires, so I don't think that conclusion holds much weight.

Man0warr · #**657** 02-02-2015, 04:01 PM

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You guys with your "Asgard = TMO alt guild" thing cracks me up.

It's RnF dude. Same thing with the "BDA = Chest Cult" meme.

Errakus · #**658** 02-02-2015, 04:14 PM

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Are you under the impression that BDA will be successful in Velious? lol

I'm sorry, but even with the changes I would love to see BDA do any Velious content, I'm afraid it's not going to happen.

I being in a smaller guild have come to terms with this, apparently BDA has not and they have at LEAST 5x times the amount of people as my guild.

Tiggles · #**659** 02-02-2015, 04:21 PM

What it looks like here is Taken is attempting to scapegoat BDA as the source of all strife in Class R while they field a large force of members.

Are they on board with this Tier within a Tier raid rule? Do they want to continue the rotation?

Would a Tiggles moderated Class R discussion on Twitch be a possibility?

Ciroco · #**660** 02-02-2015, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Moreso worried about our own readiness for Velious than other guilds due to the rotation giving us excuses to mobilize slowly, not worry when unnecessary wipes happened, etc.

If only there was another option for a more competitive raid environment...