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are we suggesting charm had a different MR code? we can know that too. we just need to do more digging if this is about enc charm pet dmg, we can be pretty certain of that too, as far as it appears in logs, some of which survived the invis breaking charm is something we can and should investigate further. i'm in full support of this or other classic nerfs as long as it doesnt present other technical issues and exploits AND its actually classic i guess im not just not ready to throw my hands up and say "ok i give up, just nerf it with custom values" and i dont think we should be sending that message to the devs about any feature. its very, very classic that a shaman and enc can duo content made for groups. they're both strong classes that have unique weaknesses but complement each other well. and we definitely shouldnt be getting emotional and hyperbolic about this. its a game yes, but its also a museum project for the staff, which have signed some sort of contract to keep it that way. for all we know they can't go and rebalance things and make "custom" content because they made a commitment in writing to DBG to only restore classic... but that's just me talking, i dont know the extent of that contract. | |||
Last edited by bubur; 11-25-2019 at 04:19 PM..
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I hope Roegan reads all this and starts a feezls besed server. | |||
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I mean, even on blue back in the early days, chanters were a low pop class (6% or so on the like 2013 surveys I saw I think). What changed? Did charm get buffed on blue? Not that I recall. Chanters even went through a number of nerfs since classic on blue. What changed was the SAC got a lot of attention, and people started streaming enchanters, and the wiki got more updates, etc. During Tecmos's and Noman's heydays when I was making videos and streaming and playing on blue a ton, I got multiple tells almost every time I was on from chanters saying stuff like "Oh man, I never knew how cool enchanters were until I saw your videos!" or "I'm still not great, you make charming look so easy, but I am figuring it out and it is fun!" or "I made a chanter because of you" or picking my brain about a hundred different chanter things. And PMs on the forums. And threads on here. Etc etc. 99.99% OF PEOPLE JUST DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO USE CHARM CORRECTLY!!! | |||
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as a sidenote can any op enc come and farm freeti on teal for a while?
havent seen even one pair of fruity boots yet. im payin well | ||
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Where's this hard data that Chanters are playing like they did back in '99?
I mean, I haven't seen hard data from the other side either, but neither have come forward with verifiable numbers. What the status quo crowd has going for it is that the P99 team agrees with them. It falls on the people demanding change to make a case for things being the way they want them (as it should). | ||
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