VZTZ assimilated by Rogean

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by Foxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

honestly, the Z axis thing is pretty retarded. I have never liked how in so many open zones a caster can just use levitate, and chain cast the shit out of a melee class and the melee have literally nothing he can do to stop it...

melee should be able to hit a caster no matter the Z-axis differance. and this is comming from a career pvp cleric. all i have to do is run off a spire/bridge/tree and cast, then run back, and i will be nearly immune from melee classes

Agreed.

[Salty]

Originally Posted by Foxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

all i have to do is run off a spire/bridge/tree and cast, then run back, and i will be nearly immune from melee classes

this

[Macken]

Originally Posted by Foxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

honestly, the Z axis thing is pretty retarded. I have never liked how in so many open zones a caster can just use levitate, and chain cast the shit out of a melee class and the melee have literally nothing he can do to stop it...

melee should be able to hit a caster no matter the Z-axis differance. and this is comming from a career pvp cleric. all i have to do is run off a spire/bridge/tree and cast, then run back, and i will be nearly immune from melee classes who are too dumb to have levitate.

Actually I agree now that i think about it. Plus get rid of winged death. It's too OP. As an int caster when i get dotted with it, It kills me in one cast. That's like a one shot cast.

Pffft for real.

Now that i think about it 10,000 foot swords aren't retarted and are realistic. Let's not worry that it's never been like that anywhere or anytime on live. Let's not worry about class strengths or weaknesses, we could just merge all classes into one and all play the same thing.

[Walk]

Originally Posted by Macken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually I agree now that i think about it. Plus get rid of winged death. It's too OP. As an int caster when i get dotted with it, It kills me in one cast. That's like a one shot cast.

Pffft for real.

Now that i think about it 10,000 foot swords aren't retarted and are realistic. Let's not worry that it's never been like that anywhere or anytime on live. Let's not worry about class strengths or weaknesses, we could just merge all classes into one and all play the same thing.

pumice>winged death, and what do you know of live zek pvp thats up to date?

[Macken]

Originally Posted by Walk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

pumice>winged death, and what do you know of live zek pvp thats up to date?

Oh i didn't think of that. Oh and i guess i could just cast levitate on my melee too. Nevermind. I guess there should be a common sense z-axis check after all.

Of course common sense dictates there should be one. It's like that on Zek now. Last month it was like that on Zek. Last year, the year before, the first year of Zek, the first year of RZ,TZ,SZ. The first day of EQ too. Not sure what i was thinking earlier.

No 10,000 foot swords please. k thanks.

[naez]

target rings not classic ruins my immersion

[Xantille]

Keep this thread on task bros -- less bickering about what you want to see changed, more beta testing of P99 PvP mechanics.

Rexx's preliminary findings are a good start, and sounds pretty fucking important. Need moar posts like that.










p.s.

There should be no z-axis check on melee -- lest we forget about classic, melees will get dumped on until people get monsoons, haste items, etc. And from what I've read, melee damage is already subpar.

Instituting Z-axis check on melee during classic = a server of all mages (+ 1 cleric to heal), chain-casting lev rings and lavabolting people to shit. No es bueno.

[Bombfist]

Z axis is a nobrainer, I've messaged rogean to ask if we could have some sort of test server thrown up where vz/tz lays so we can test the mechanics properly, i'm not sure if that's possible with his current schedule.

The next thing on the list from what rexx already tested would be line of sight casting, all melee damage needs parsing properly, % hit chance, max hit % to lowest hit %.

Current bugs and exploits need listing properly, including zone crashes etc, if you don't want to do it here, do it in a pm, i know for a fact that people in the vz/tz community still know how to crash zones if they want, so pm that shit to a GM so we can remove retarded crap like that from pvp.

Charm/Fear both need looking at, whirl needs to be tested.

Casting interrupts need to be tested.

Can't think of anything else.

[Macken]

Originally Posted by Xantille [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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p.s.

There should be no z-axis check on melee -- lest we forget about classic, melees will get dumped on until people get monsoons, haste items, etc. And from what I've read, melee damage is already subpar.

Instituting Z-axis check on melee during classic = a server of all mages (+ 1 cleric to heal), chain-casting lev rings and lavabolting people to shit. No es bueno.

Stop trolling Rogean. Everyone knows if you want to be OP make a melee. Stop trying to make it worse. It's not anyone's fault that casting levitate on a melee gets the message...

"your spell would not hold".

[Foxx]

also,

resists should not affect the duration of dots, or how much damage they do... they never did, it only affects if you land the spell or not