Current Sky Schedule

[Asap]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know you don't like FE but this is silly.

Originally Posted by maverixdamighty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

we'll just go up when we have the interest then.

Loraen, I think this is the reason Chest kind of took offense, as any guild who has consistently been raiding sky for the past year + would.

[Erati]

I agree with Chest on this matter where a temporary solution should b sought after while a more permenant one is worked out.

These rotations were not created just a month a ago and the reason they didnt contain the "#2 guild" on server is bc they had no interest in figuring out how to sched their sky day as they dont sched their raids. All the raiding guilds on the list have their raid nights scheduled so it was easy to over the course of many weeks n months get a feeling of when others did sky and what would work best for their own members. This thread was created so other people could see the sched in writing but it had been goin strong for many months prior.

[Handull]

How much of sky does Rapture usually clear on Saturdays? If they only do 1-5 then FE could go up to 7 and clear bees/sister/eye at any time during the day, would just have to work to ensure neither guild is Sirran blocked if they go up at the same time. FE could also pull lords to 7 after Rapture was done if they left the guardian up. Could do the same thing Mondays/Tuesdays as long as someone asked Ateam/FC what they were planning that week. AFAIK both ateam and FC are both in lord farm mode atm, but that can always change. Saturdays would be a nicer day to raid though so pacific, eastern, and euros can be happy. Heck, if any guild clearing 1-5 didn't need all the keys on 4, they could leave a griffon up and FE could trigger a KoS spawn, of course this would be easier on Saturdays due to the long spawn times and the inability to overlap trigger timers.

[arsenalpow]

Rapture has been doing full clears.

[cs616]

I don't understand how people are implying that we're not being diplomatic. This thread was started by an FE member trying to figure out the current schedule. Numerous FE members have posted in this thread with possible solutions, by my count 3: TMO raiding earlier, Rapture raiding later, rotating days so that one guild isn't stuck with an 8 AM raid every week. In fact, this entire thread is kind of a discussion about FE trying to start raiding sky without stepping on people's feet. Some of you guys are acting like our unwillingness to raid at 8am is some how unreasonable, when I doubt any other guild in the rotation would be willing to raid at the time. Shooting down our proposals and providing us with one shitty option isn't a compromise or diplomatic, in fact it is kind of the opposite.

I can see how Mav's or Shinko's post could be seen as undiplomatic, but really they're just pointing out that if our only option is to raid at 8 AM we're simply not going to join the rotation. That isn't a threat or an intent to ruin the rotation though, it is just the result of us trying to find a compromise and being unable to. It isn't the result you want, nor is it the result we want (again this entire post is evidence of that), but it is simply a fact that needed to be pointed out given that so far raiding at 8 AM is the only option people have been willing to provide us with.

[Sarius]

When you have a member like Mav post nonsense, it reflects poorly on your entire guild. People tend to focus on the negative. Your best solution is to PM/Tell officers of TMO and Rapture so you can be incorporated on the weekend and post here afterwards with the results.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Sarius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When you have a member like Mav post nonsense, it reflects poorly on your entire guild. People tend to focus on the negative. Your best solution is to PM/Tell officers of TMO and Rapture so you can be incorporated on the weekend and post here afterwards with the results.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Asap [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Loraen, I think this is the reason Chest kind of took offense, as any guild who has consistently been raiding sky for the past year + would.

I disagree. FE is more or less politely coming in and asking to be worked into the rotation, and Chest is telling them to fuck off. No one wants to raid sky at 8AM. If you aren't going to make a reasonable effort to give them a piece of the pie then why should they respect your rotation?

The simple solution is to ask whoever goes on Saturday and Sunday to start at noon EST. This is hardly an outrageously early morning time, and that means that another raid can start at 8PM EST, especially if we can pair one full clear guild and one 1-5 guild.

On a side note, I think the fact that we have 8(!) guilds that are capable of doing the Spiroc Lord (who is basically as hard as any other boss outside of VP) shows you how overcrowded the raid scene is. This is why I keep thinking tokens are a good idea. If we had a rotation each guild would get to kill Sev (say) once every two months!

[Sarius]

Better than 6 guilds getting one every never

[bizzum]

I don't mind starting sometime around 12/1230 EST on Sunday (we do start around then most of the time anyways, unless I get drunk on Saturday!), but it will still pose a problem if the people hoping to go on Sunday night want to do Bees/Sisters. Isle 1-5 has a 6-8 hour respawn, but Bees have a 12 hour respawn, so thats going to kill any bee/sister kills for the guilds going up after.

Anyways, if somebody is honestly interested in going Sunday night, PM me and we can work something out. This does mean me waking up earlier than 9AM on Sundays, though [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]