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Old 06-30-2010, 10:37 PM
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So a certain class has an exp penalty, because in theory, they are superior..??
I think it's a throwback to dungeons and dragons with multiclassing.
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Old 06-30-2010, 10:41 PM
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I think it's a throwback to dungeons and dragons with multiclassing.
Ya, I think that might have been it. Original class penalty given not because of it's "superiority" but more because that's how things used to be. Getting spells/skills from two different classes caused you to be "special" and get penalties... In time the view probably switched and such. Whether or not exp penalties for classes ever actually balanced stuff I have no idea..

In fact this whole post is just speculation haha.
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Old 06-30-2010, 10:52 PM
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Wasn't really the point I was trying to make.... : /
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Old 06-30-2010, 11:00 PM
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Sorry, was more talking to myself outloud... I should stop that...

yes, race penalties would get factored in along with class penalties
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Old 07-01-2010, 12:32 AM
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Yes, and were removed once the secret was out (the much greater population did not know that it was a group shared penalty till some time after kunark release). Hybrids did not make a group so strong as to warrant such a huge penalty, and no one was grouping with, which is already being seen. I have already been refused to group on my SK due to the exp penalty 5 times today in a short time. I simply can not find a group. Guess what... /bye SK.

I spent a better part of my day at work tonight trying to find the epic post I read back in the day where a GM slipped out that the penalty was shared in group, but to no avail.

I mean, if you're going to make it "classic" then make it classic:

-I want my sword of runes to proc while in the hands of an NPC.
-I want my pet to be able to tank a mob with a rogue in melee range and not getting hit. (this was an easy-out fix for verant in SoV when pets were dying a lot due to getting a lot of aggro; they made it where if a PC was in melee range it would attack the PC with no exception).
-Mobs/pets that don't disappear into the wall/drop through the floor and aggro the entire zone.

I mean, there is a reason you kept the Vellious UI and didn't revert to the old one: it was an improvement to the game and made it more enjoyable. .
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Old 07-01-2010, 12:37 AM
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Well in that case Mimi, I want pets to take 50% exp if they do 50% damage to the NPCs.

On the note of exp being shared/ruined in groups, guess I won't be grouping with any SKs, Pallies, Bards or Rangers anymore.
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Old 07-01-2010, 12:43 AM
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To Mimi...

I'm not sure if this affects some of the things you've said, but there are many issues that just can't be changed (without spending incredible amounts of time) that are due to the client they are running. They are using a version of EQ Emu but modded it but some things just can't be changed unless they want to spend LOTS of time which could be better spent other places.
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Old 07-01-2010, 12:47 AM
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Well in that case Mimi, I want pets to take 50% exp if they do 50% damage to the NPCs.

On the note of exp being shared/ruined in groups, guess I won't be grouping with any SKs, Pallies, Bards or Rangers anymore.
I do more dmg than my pet, so I don't care really. And when did they do that change? Oh yea... that was after SoV
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Old 07-01-2010, 12:50 AM
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Hmm, i swear, any more posts and this thing could be thrown into the "Rants/Flames" section XD
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Old 07-01-2010, 12:51 AM
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To Mimi...

I'm not sure if this affects some of the things you've said, but there are many issues that just can't be changed (without spending incredible amounts of time) that are due to the client they are running. They are using a version of EQ Emu but modded it but some things just can't be changed unless they want to spend LOTS of time which could be better spent other places.
Yeah, I guess screwing over Hybrids is included in the latter.
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