So when did classic get rid of xp penalties?

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Terroric [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm a level 10 SK Ogre. While in CB, I was denied twice the chance to group because I was an Ogre/SK.

If this is what I have to look forward to on this server, even if this is considered 'classic' and as close to the way it was, I will most likely depart.

Very upsetting. I'm a level ten. The more and more people talk about this sort of thing, the quicker it will spread and the worse it will get.

Do the community a favor and 'fix' it.

Most of the people who do this are considered idiots anyway, so you'll get the last laugh at higher levels when people invite you to groups but not them. Don't worry too much about it.

[Doors]

I wouldn't exactly listen to what Giegue is saying, I mean, the guy plays a bard for God's sake.

[raptorak]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most of the people who do this are considered idiots anyway, so you'll get the last laugh at higher levels when people invite you to groups but not them. Don't worry too much about it.

I doubt either of us will get anywhere near that level - "back in the day" I leveled a troll sk to 30 then quit for Tallon Zek, levelled to 35 then quit when I saw I had 29 days played on the new char, to me, that's just sad.

Having said that I applaud the rest of you who are having a great time reliving the old days, the thing is, the vast majority of you guys do not play a hybrid class, and for very good reasons.

The reason I play troll SK, is because any other race/class combo bores me. They do genuinely kick ass, it is just SO.DAMN.DEMORALIZINGLY.SLOW. I want to play Troll SK but now I know I have a 68% exp pen (I always thought it was 25%, so yeh ignorance is bliss) and no one wants to group with me.

Why does this server allow casters to see outside of their med book, for mana to regen from level 1 on hybrids, for decaying skeletons to "scowl" when they should be "indifferent", for scarab beetles not to glow, for high res water in oasis, for new weapon hit sounds whilst it keeps infuriating stuff such as the exp penalties and awful hit/miss melee ratio.

Classic EQ was in dire need of improvement at release and it received it. PoP ruined the game and we all know it - but EQ at release, though great comparatively speaking, needed a lot of work and improvement before it was as good as it was around 2001.

Ah, I guess I say to much - really it is my choice whether or not to play here and the creators of this server have the right to do whatever they want. Either way, I have stated my reasons why I won't play P1999, and I hope, perhaps, they might consider making the game an enjoyable experience.

[dusk883]

Originally Posted by raptorak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I doubt either of us will get anywhere near that level - "back in the day" I leveled a troll sk to 30 then quit for Tallon Zek, levelled to 35 then quit when I saw I had 29 days played on the new char, to me, that's just sad.

The reason I play troll SK, is because any other race/class combo bores me. They do genuinely kick ass, it is just SO.DAMN.DEMORALIZINGLY.SLOW. I want to play Troll SK but now I know I have a 68% exp pen (I always thought it was 25%, so yeh ignorance is bliss) and no one wants to group with me.

Any chance you were in Army of Grobb?

I agree with everything you say, but I do play some... just not the beloved troll race unless I'm screwing around as a Shaman now that exp rates have been exposed.

[Kassel]

Originally Posted by raptorak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I doubt either of us will get anywhere near that level - "back in the day" I leveled a troll sk to 30 then quit for Tallon Zek, levelled to 35 then quit when I saw I had 29 days played on the new char, to me, that's just sad.

Having said that I applaud the rest of you who are having a great time reliving the old days, the thing is, the vast majority of you guys do not play a hybrid class, and for very good reasons.

The reason I play troll SK, is because any other race/class combo bores me. They do genuinely kick ass, it is just SO.DAMN.DEMORALIZINGLY.SLOW. I want to play Troll SK but now I know I have a 68% exp pen (I always thought it was 25%, so yeh ignorance is bliss) and no one wants to group with me.

Why does this server allow casters to see outside of their med book, for mana to regen from level 1 on hybrids, for decaying skeletons to "scowl" when they should be "indifferent", for scarab beetles not to glow, for high res water in oasis, for new weapon hit sounds whilst it keeps infuriating stuff such as the exp penalties and awful hit/miss melee ratio.

Classic EQ was in dire need of improvement at release and it received it. PoP ruined the game and we all know it - but EQ at release, though great comparatively speaking, needed a lot of work and improvement before it was as good as it was around 2001.

Ah, I guess I say to much - really it is my choice whether or not to play here and the creators of this server have the right to do whatever they want. Either way, I have stated my reasons why I won't play P1999, and I hope, perhaps, they might consider making the game an enjoyable experience.

All of your complaints are due to the fact that the server is built on the titanium client and are hard coded in to the clients itself. Also skellys are supposed to scowl.

The reasons you quit are dumb and i feel we are all better off . It is not project 2001

[Aadill]

To clarify what Kassel is saying:

Originally Posted by raptorak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why does this server allow casters to see outside of their med book,

Client Issue.

Originally Posted by raptorak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

for mana to regen from level 1 on hybrids

Mana regeneration for everyone at level 1 (if they have mana). It doesn't regen with meidtate-level efficiency until the correct level for the class archetype (4 for casters, 8 for priests, 12 for hybrids).

Originally Posted by raptorak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

for decaying skeletons to "scowl" when they should be "indifferent"

As far as everyone can attest to this is the correct implementation for the timeline.

Originally Posted by raptorak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

for scarab beetles not to glow

Bug report it if it's incorrect.

Originally Posted by raptorak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

for high res water in oasis

Client issue, but fixable. You can easily turn off water if you go to the options menu in Everquest.

Originally Posted by raptorak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

for new weapon hit sounds

What? Every mob I hit sounds like it does and there were never any hit sounds beyond block, riposte, and parry. They are all correct.

Originally Posted by raptorak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

whilst it keeps infuriating stuff such as the exp penalties

Correct for the timeline.

Originally Posted by raptorak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and awful hit/miss melee ratio.

This isn't VZTZ. All logs/parsed data back from early on as possible point to the current implementation being at least somewhat fairly accurate. It's not perfect but the damage outputs about match what should be expected per class (except for rogues).

Originally Posted by raptorak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ah, I guess I say to much - really it is my choice whether or not to play here and the creators of this server have the right to do whatever they want. Either way, I have stated my reasons why I won't play P1999, and I hope, perhaps, they might consider making the game an enjoyable experience.

Take it or leave it is the best you're gonna get, considering all of your reasons/request are actually not in the scope of this server's timeline. Most of what you are talking about is cosmetic or is unchangeable by the dev staff. The remaining things are either not backed up with research or have not been bug reported.

[raptorak]

Put it this way - not sure about the /con, but the decaying skeletons never aggroed unless you attacked them first, I bet you 10 plat, nothing to you perhaps, but in other words 8 hours of my time for you to suck up necro-style. And this is besides the point.

If want to give up my job, girlfriend and everything else along with it, I might just reach mid-level mediocrity on this server. Instead, I would LOVE to play an improved EQ Classic whereas this is "roll a caster noob" EQ Classic.

You told me I could take it or leave it but I choose to express my opinion on the forum - I also choose to wait until this glaring mistake is rectified, because it inevitably will be if I am to have any faith in human decency, and then all the happy little fairies will dance for joy in nostalgia land rather than just a select few.

OK so this is Project 1999 and we only do 1999 stuff - SO WHAT THE **** is Kunark doing there?

Now I will take a moment to say that what the devs have done here is quite incredible. But you have to see that the server could be improved and needs to be improved - it is just sheer hell for anyone who wasn't "l33t" back in the day.

All of you guys are in your high 50s on at least one or two chars already. Like I said the highest I ever got was lvl 35 and I quit with PoP - I will not get to that level again and I sincerly doubt I will ever experience the high end of the game. Now I can't even get a damn group with your alt because you don't want to get the exp hit and either way I'm a noob right, so I would just slow you down. Let alone the fact that I'm packing a full set of netted armour and a rusty 2h sword at level 5. You can ignore what I am saying but you would also be ignoring the main reason people quit this server.

[Aadill]

Originally Posted by raptorak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You told me I could take it or leave it but I choose to express my opinion on the forum - I also choose to wait until this glaring mistake is rectified, because it inevitably will be if I am to have any faith in human decency, and then all the happy little fairies will dance for joy in nostalgia land rather than just a select few.

OK so this is Project 1999 and we only do 1999 stuff - SO WHAT THE **** is Kunark doing there?

I told you to take it or leave it because your reasons for not playing are based on things that are impossible to fix without editing the .exe and distributing it (which would be against Sony's EULA) or are incorrect/based off of anecdotal evidence in which no bug report is provided in the proper location here: http://www.project1999.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=6

Furthermore: make sure you understand the scope of this server. From the main page:

Relive the classic Everquest MMORPG Gaming Experience as it was in 1999 and onward. Project 1999 is a free to play Emulated Everquest Server giving Players the opportunity to experience Classic EQ Once again, starting with the original 3 continents and a max level of 50, with the look and feel of the old interface and several modifications making game mechanics similar to how the game used to be.

That line is a bit confusing. It should probably be changed around to mention that the expansion cap is Velious, as the "1999 and onward" line would indicate that we would otherwise be indefinitely moving through each expansion. Kunark is out because we're in that portion of the timeline labeled as "onward". In fact, we're around August 2000 if I'm not mistaken. There's no clear line drawn on this but some of the latest patches are reaching towards end of the year stuff.

Originally Posted by raptorak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Now I will take a moment to say that what the devs have done here is quite incredible. But you have to see that the server could be improved and needs to be improved - it is just sheer hell for anyone who wasn't "l33t" back in the day.

Everquest wasn't a casual game. Project1999 isn't trying to make it a casual game. Judging by your complaint I suspect you don't get a lot of playtime. That's understandable, but you get out what you put in. I started over a year and a half ago and I'm still not level 60. I picked a Ranger as my main when I started here because that's what I wanted to play. I wanted to play Project1999 because I LOVED EQ back in the day. This is a pretty damn good recreation of it and what the devs done is indeed incredible.

To want it changed, though, you will draw ire from every individual who wants to relive that same experience.... the dirty grimy rage-inducing, eye-bleeding, keyboard-slamming Everquest we all knew and loved. I *WANT* to camp a quest mob for 12 hours straight because damnit that's what gave Everquest it's name... perhaps a misnomer, as Evercamp would have been more appropriate, but I digress.

Originally Posted by raptorak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All of you guys are in your high 50s on at least one or two chars already. Like I said the highest I ever got was lvl 35 and I quit with PoP - I will not get to that level again and I sincerly doubt I will ever experience the high end of the game. Now I can't even get a damn group with your alt because you don't want to get the exp hit and either way I'm a noob right, so I would just slow you down. Let alone the fact that I'm packing a full set of netted armour and a rusty 2h sword at level 5. You can ignore what I am saying but you would also be ignoring the main reason people quit this server.

I don't play as much as I used to because I, too, have been busy with life. I would however love to start a new character, untwinked, and run around bashing things at level 5. I'd consider you the lucky one in that regard.. just sayin. <3 (I'm probably suffering from some brain damage)

[raptorak]

Lol must be all those deaths as a ranger - well guess I'm just gonna have to say that EQ is too hardcore for me. I used to like the hardcore PVP aspect of Ultima Online and something more along those lines could get me interested, Everquest had awesome mobs and difficulty (but imo leveling speed wasn't a plus point) with awful PVP, but for me then EQ Classic = have fun guys I can't go through that torture again [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Snaggles]

Why on Earth isn't anyone but maybe a rogue soloing at level 10? You could be wielding a dead rat carcass and wearing a flowery moo-moo and be rocking the expz.