Is Faith In God Reasonable? Faith is Foolish Debate

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[Ephirith]

Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

HBB you worry too much about labels. Just saying, it lowers your credibility a bit more than you realize.

Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

HBB you worry too much about labels. Just saying, it lowers your credibility a bit more than you realize.

Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

HBB you worry too much about labels. Just saying, it lowers your credibility a bit more than you realize.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

HBB you worry too much about labels.

I like precision in language. Without that, you may as well call the sky green, arguing with someone who is saying the sky is blue, when what you mean by green is blue.

Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

..it lowers your credibility a bit more than you realize.

Argumentum ad populum holds absolutely none of my interest.

[Hasbinbad]

Ephirith, i c wat u did ther, but i don't see you disagreeing with what i have to say in any meaningful way.

[Reapin]

We are all a part of one gigantic chemical reaction. There could be a god, but it is not some magic sky jew or some muslim child molester floating on a cloud. God is just the energy that makes up everything we are able to observe and all the other stuff we cannot. The narcissistic notion of god invented by men is merely a tool used to control you and rob you of your wealth and freedom.

There is no good and evil. Those are social values determined by the society we live in. The times and conditions humans are nurtured in determine the level of intolerance, empathy and greed we have. These things in varying degrees determine the morality of a society. This of course is a general rule and there are always the oddball people who go against the status quo (I call them progressives) who change the morality of a society in large or small ways.

There is only evolution. There is no such thing as devolution. Things change over time due to the stimuli around us. Humans could very well evolve gills again and crawl back into the ocean if things changed slow enough for us to evolve that way again. But judging by the rate of climate change we will not succeed in surviving another 2000 years.

Life is far grander and much more wondrous than any religion as been able to grasp. This is why as we gain more knowledge, religion tends to pool around communities of the ignorant, weak minded and cowardly portions of the human race.

Christianity in particular is nothing but a selfish death cult. Its members content of killing themselves and everyone else to hasten the speed of their believed salvation. For everyone else, salvation would be the end of Christianity.

[youtube]We are all a part of one gigantic chemical reaction. There could be a god, but it is not some magic sky jew or some muslim child molester floating on a cloud. God is just the energy that makes up everything we are able to observe and all the other stuff we cannot. The narcissistic notion of god invented by men is merely a tool used to control you and rob you of your wealth and freedom.

There is no good and evil. Those are social values determined by the society we live in. The times and conditions humans are nurtured in determine the level of intolerance, empathy and greed we have. These things in varying degrees determine the morality of a society. This of course is a general rule and there are always the oddball people who go against the status quo (I call them progressives) who change the morality of a society in large or small ways.

There is only evolution. There is no such thing as devolution. Things change over time due to the stimuli around us. Humans could very well evolve gills again and crawl back into the ocean if things changed slow enough for us to evolve that way again. But judging by the rate of climate change we will not succeed in surviving another 2000 years.

Life is far grander and much more wondrous than any religion as been able to grasp. This is why as we gain more knowledge, religion tends to pool around communities of the ignorant, weak minded and cowardly portions of the human race.

Christianity in particular is nothing but a selfish death cult. Its members content of killing themselves and everyone else to hasten the speed of their believed salvation. For everyone else, salvation would be the end of Christianity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eqKb5ViN_Q

[Reapin]

Sorry for the double tap...

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Reapin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We are all a part of one gigantic chemical reaction. There could be a god, but it is not some magic sky jew or some muslim child molester floating on a cloud. God is just the energy that makes up everything we are able to observe and all the other stuff we cannot. The narcissistic notion of god invented by men is merely a tool used to control you and rob you of your wealth and freedom.

There is no good and evil. Those are social values determined by the society we live in. The times and conditions humans are nurtured in determine the level of intolerance, empathy and greed we have. These things in varying degrees determine the morality of a society. This of course is a general rule and there are always the oddball people who go against the status quo (I call them progressives) who change the morality of a society in large or small ways.

There is only evolution. There is no such thing as devolution. Things change over time due to the stimuli around us. Humans could very well evolve gills again and crawl back into the ocean if things changed slow enough for us to evolve that way again. But judging by the rate of climate change we will not succeed in surviving another 2000 years.

Life is far grander and much more wondrous than any religion as been able to grasp. This is why as we gain more knowledge, religion tends to pool around communities of the ignorant, weak minded and cowardly portions of the human race.

Christianity in particular is nothing but a selfish death cult. Its members content of killing themselves and everyone else to hasten the speed of their believed salvation. For everyone else, salvation would be the end of Christianity.

[youtube]We are all a part of one gigantic chemical reaction. There could be a god, but it is not some magic sky jew or some muslim child molester floating on a cloud. God is just the energy that makes up everything we are able to observe and all the other stuff we cannot. The narcissistic notion of god invented by men is merely a tool used to control you and rob you of your wealth and freedom.

There is no good and evil. Those are social values determined by the society we live in. The times and conditions humans are nurtured in determine the level of intolerance, empathy and greed we have. These things in varying degrees determine the morality of a society. This of course is a general rule and there are always the oddball people who go against the status quo (I call them progressives) who change the morality of a society in large or small ways.

There is only evolution. There is no such thing as devolution. Things change over time due to the stimuli around us. Humans could very well evolve gills again and crawl back into the ocean if things changed slow enough for us to evolve that way again. But judging by the rate of climate change we will not succeed in surviving another 2000 years.

Life is far grander and much more wondrous than any religion as been able to grasp. This is why as we gain more knowledge, religion tends to pool around communities of the ignorant, weak minded and cowardly portions of the human race.

Christianity in particular is nothing but a selfish death cult. Its members content of killing themselves and everyone else to hasten the speed of their believed salvation. For everyone else, salvation would be the end of Christianity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eqKb5ViN_Q

will pray for your immortal soul

[Reapin]

Spend your time masturbating. It's more productive.

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

will pray for your immortal soul

Is this the same immortal soul that God created perfectly that he decided to test anyway for imperfections, giving it free will and sending it to hell when it exercises that free will by not doing exactly what he wanted it to do in the first place?

[Ephirith]

We don't have free will by the way, everything that is ever going to happen was determined at the instant the universe began. Or if the universe never began or ended, everything was determined at the point(s) and time of origination of all visible matter. Quantum uncertainty only creates randomness at the particle level, and it evens out at the macro scale to result in the complete and utter absence of randomness and uncertainty. And we don't know how much of that 'uncertainty" results from limitations of observation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determinism

Ladies and gentlemen, you do what you will, but you do not will what you will.