Body aggro is not FTE?

[quido]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How do you figure?

server chat bro or I would happily oblige

[Psipher]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Problem is assholes will do this and GMs usually won't respond, sometimes you have to inact island justice

This "justice" apparently involved KS'ing other people than the one you were seeking.

[flatt]

You don't go to a whore house if your not looking for some ass, you don't go to that island if your not looking for drama

[quido]

I goto that island looking for ass

[Psipher]

Now as to the bards original post, the body contact pull, I dont see anything wrong with it, but you have to realize that when you drag the mob over other people and you have not done damage or something to the mob to get hate, it WILL hit them instead.

[t0lkien]

Originally Posted by Psipher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Now as to the bards original post, the body contact pull, I dont see anything wrong with it, but you have to realize that when you drag the mob over other people and you have not done damage or something to the mob to get hate, it WILL hit them instead.

Yes of course, and that's the Bard's responsibility to minimize that. Nothing you can do about people running near your mob though. As an aside, this remains true even if the mob has lost a lot of health from your pet (and you have since killed your pet). The mob aggros on you, but it's still just soft aggro, so you can't train it over anyone while looking for another pet. I learned that one the hard way.

[t0lkien]

Originally Posted by Lyra [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I completely agree, but that doesn't change the fact that it did happen and Ambrotos responded saying it wasn't a camp. Wound + Salt = Hell hath no fury

FYI, on his stream last night, Sirken absolutely categorically contradicted this, and on CSR stuff he is pretty much the last word. If Ephi did say this (and that's not confirmed unless Ephi himself posts he did), Sirken has overruled it. The AC in South Ro is recognized as a legitimate camp and that will be enforced if necessary.

Also, for those who corpse camp this (by winning a ring and then dying and leaving it on their corpses so they can effectively "hold" multiple Lore rings), Sirken pretty passionately explained that by dying people have relinquished the camp. So if someone does this and claims the person waiting can't take the camp because the corpse campers port straight back or leave someone to hold the camp, the person waiting can (and should) claim the camp and enter a petition ticket if there is trouble. The corpse camper will not only lose the camp but gain a death touch and temporary suspension, as Sirken made it pretty clear he is none to fond of those who use such methods to monopolize spawns on important items, keeping players from gaining them in the normal way.

Lots of interesting tidbits on Sirken's stream. I recommend it.

[Sarius]

Originally Posted by t0lkien [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

FYI, on his stream last night, Sirken absolutely categorically contradicted this, and on CSR stuff he is pretty much the last word. If Ephi did say this (and that's not confirmed unless Ephi himself posts he did), Sirken has overruled it. The AC in South Ro is recognized as a legitimate camp and that will be enforced if necessary.

Also, for those who corpse camp this (by winning a ring and then dying and leaving it on their corpses so they can effectively "hold" multiple Lore rings), Sirken pretty passionately explained that by dying people have relinquished the camp. So if someone does this and claims the person waiting can't take the camp because the corpse campers port straight back or leave someone to hold the camp, the person waiting can (and should) claim the camp and enter a petition ticket if there is trouble. The corpse camper will not only lose the camp but gain a death touch and temporary suspension, as Sirken made it pretty clear he is none to fond of those who use such methods to monopolize spawns on important items, keeping players from gaining them in the normal way.

Lots of interesting tidbits on Sirken's stream. I recommend it.

If a corpse camper hands the camp off to somebody to hold his spot, then reclaims it when he gets back, it is still his camp. This is defined in the server rules. There is no waiting list or next in line. Whoever holds the camp can hand it off to whoever he/she likes.

[t0lkien]

Originally Posted by Sarius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If a corpse camper hands the camp off to somebody to hold his spot, then reclaims it when he gets back, it is still his camp. This is defined in the server rules. There is no waiting list or next in line. Whoever holds the camp can hand it off to whoever he/she likes.

You know, he didn't specifically cover this practice in his comments that I remember. By his tone I'm guessing he's not going to be sympathetic to it, but he'd have to answer it for us to know for sure.

But seriously, what sort of douchebag does this if there are other players legitimately waiting? The act of dying relinquishes the camp, that's the message I got from what Sirken said. If there are others in the group who "hold it" while the camper ports back and loots a corpse, leaving the Lore item on the corpse, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that that situation is not covered in the server rules.

[Lyra]

Originally Posted by t0lkien [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

FYI, on his stream last night, Sirken absolutely categorically contradicted this, and on CSR stuff he is pretty much the last word. If Ephi did say this (and that's not confirmed unless Ephi himself posts he did), Sirken has overruled it. The AC in South Ro is recognized as a legitimate camp and that will be enforced if necessary.

Also, for those who corpse camp this (by winning a ring and then dying and leaving it on their corpses so they can effectively "hold" multiple Lore rings), Sirken pretty passionately explained that by dying people have relinquished the camp. So if someone does this and claims the person waiting can't take the camp because the corpse campers port straight back or leave someone to hold the camp, the person waiting can (and should) claim the camp and enter a petition ticket if there is trouble. The corpse camper will not only lose the camp but gain a death touch and temporary suspension, as Sirken made it pretty clear he is none to fond of those who use such methods to monopolize spawns on important items, keeping players from gaining them in the normal way.

Lots of interesting tidbits on Sirken's stream. I recommend it.

It was Ambrotos, not Ephi. We know that these kinds of infractions have to be dealt with immediately, because once the ring becomes someones J-boots it's too late. Ambrotos was the decision maker at that moment. It's not like I can request a review of his decision and get an answer before the ring becomes boots. I did put in a petition after reading this thread, but apparently there are 20 pages of petitions. It's whatever. I managed to get Algna her boots in OOT, so I hope I've revived her faith in the P99 community for now. Still working on my recovery.