Victim disarmament zones

[Nikon]

Originally Posted by aowen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think it would be strange to plan carrying a weapon into a batman premier. That to me would be consistent with the fear I was mentioning earlier, and would make me super uncomfortable if everyone was carrying guns around my child at school or sipping a soda next to me while watching Bruce Wayne whoop ass.

I understand your point for sure, but I can almost guarantee you've sat down next to someone somewhere carrying a concealed weapon, and never knew it or felt unsafe. You could have been in a restaurant, a movie theater, or walking through Home Depot. You have the same or worse chances that the random guy in the room with a concealed gun is going to shoot you or your child as you do that the guy on the other side of you with a pocket knife is going to follow you out of the theater to rob you at knife point or stab you to steal your car.

I don't agree that teachers should be carrying guns, as that would make me uneasy with my child as well. And I firmly believe that they should make the requirements for carrying a gun much much more strict as far as training and certification.

The safety issue can definitely be argued both ways, but there are people that don't feel comfortable not having their gun with them be it from a previous life experience to themselves or someone else. How do you not infringe on their right to feel safe in order to make you feel safe? No matter how you look at it, or how 'crazy' you might think they are for feeling that way, you can't not infringe (fucking double negatives). So how can one person's feeling of safety trump another who doesn't necessarily share the same life experiences.

[r00t]

banning classes of guns is just ridiculous. hypothetically, you can do more damage to a movie theatre with 7 rounds of bird shot than a fully auto AR that goes oom in 2 seconds

[aowen]

And as for our rate of deaths related to guns. Not the highest in the world, but last for post-industrialized countries. Wow, we beat Mexico, Honduras, Brazil, etc at having less gun murders. Yay us. *Sweden, UK, France, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Greece, Denmark, Norway, Fucking Costa Rica, All Laughing*

[r00t]

Originally Posted by aowen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/...nsive-gun-use/

NRA study is first thing on the menu

Even by your own statistics there presented, your original point I called you on is incorrect.

[aowen]

Originally Posted by r00t [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

banning classes of guns is just ridiculous. hypothetically, you can do more damage to a movie theatre with 7 rounds of bird shot than a fully auto AR that goes oom in 2 seconds

You might injure as many, less will die. Also, clips in ARs are super quick and easy to reload. I figured owning a gun you'd know that

[Dirkus]

Originally Posted by aowen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

clips

Lost me here.

[Rhuma7]

Guns dont kill people, people kill people.

How many fucking times have you heard this and you're still all yapping away with this bullshit anti-gun rhetoric like you have a say in what our mother fucking constitution says.

'Murica!

[Nuggie]

Originally Posted by aowen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't live in fear and live my life, you wanna be penned up in your basement petting your shotgun and pulling your pud, you do that. And my reasoning for why shotguns are permitted are blatantly obvious, and already stated. Unless you don't understand slugs, shot, spread, distance, rate of fire, and size of the gun vs pistols and assault weapons.

I walk away for a second to shave... ccw's are for being penned up. they are for protecting your party in public places

I do agree with you that shotguns are more effective when used properly. But who are we to push that belief on others who don't believe it?

[aowen]

I think probably the biggest indicator is that the countries that are actually as developed as we are all have lower instances of gun deaths. I would attribute this to their gun laws, in addition to several other things like poverty and education rates. If you were actually overly concerned about your safety, you'd take away the incentives for crime and violence.

Any time there is a complex situation, the best answer is to shoot it, bomb it, or cut it off. Seems to be the mantra of a lot of idiots in this country.

[katrik]

I got a pump action shot under the bed, and a glock in my car.. =}