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Old 11-25-2013, 12:22 AM
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I want to derail this thread in an edifying way.

Lets talk about the biggest molecular mystery: the origins of homochirality. Can scientists determine (experimentally) feasible natural phenomena that would lead to a solution of monomers from which a homochiral molecular self-Replicator could propagate?

Also, what sort of ligation chemistry could provide the necessary balance of stability and reactivity to achieve spontaneous assembly of the first self-replicating catalyst? Amides and esters are too inert, as are phosphodiesters. Thioesters and disulfides are reasonable... Maybe hemiacetals?

Its pretty widely accepted that DNA wouldn't provide a suitable self-replicator, because base pairing limits its range of conformers and ties up potential catalytic moieties. Rna is much better suited, and indeed a nearly self-replicating rna sequence has been engineered, but it still seems like an unlikely first selfreplicator because of the monomer complexity and high energy of the phosphodiester bonds. We'll likely never know for sure what the original molecule was, but exploring possible scenarios is an extremely interesting area of study.
+10 very good. Science hasn't fully explained this subject. If it had we'd be taught biology very differently. When my Ochem teacher publishes his paper I'll be sure to link it.
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p99 sex scandal would win RnF thread of the year, if not all time.
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@ DrKvothe after doing some light reading on the subject on Homochirality I found some information that was pretty consistent with what my ochem teacher was telling me - "The emergence of chirality consensus as a natural autoamplification process has been associated with the 2nd law of thermodynamics." He's got a PhD in physical chemistry and a main portion of his research dealt with converting the equation for mixing entropy from intensive to extensive. He has done this successfully btw - so get ready for some books to get big fat addendums added to 'em.
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Old 11-25-2013, 01:04 AM
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p99 sex scandal would win RnF thread of the year, if not all time.
Yeah, but the question is what would be the scandal?

It'd have to be someone getting platz from one of the devs because someone has a pic of them sucking off Katrik while being buttfucked by Secrets. Or HBB being revealed as the ACTUAL Platlord. Or something along those lines.
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+10 very good. Science hasn't fully explained this subject. If it had we'd be taught biology very differently. When my Ochem teacher publishes his paper I'll be sure to link it.
Who knows but SPINNING around shit sure seems to be a recurrent theme in our whole shitfest of a universe!!~ perfect spheres of .. what... little strings... wahoooo


http://phys.org/news/2013-09-scienti...fore-seen.html
Scientists create never-before-seen form of matter

Working with colleagues at the Harvard-MIT Center for Ultracold Atoms, a group led by Harvard Professor of Physics Mikhail Lukin and MIT Professor of Physics Vladan Vuletic have managed to coax photons into binding together to form molecules – a state of matter that, until recently, had been purely theoretical. The work is described in a September 25 paper in Nature.






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one thing is for sure, someone not from this board will figure it out

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...9980AO20131009

http://phys.org/news/2013-09-spirals...nics.html#nRlv

and yes dr hawking n Co already figured out how to resolve the religion/science conflict.

http://physicsbuzz.physicscentral.co...ory-of_30.html

ur all just a bunch of babes among babies among spinning orbs OR ARE YOU
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@ DrKvothe after doing some light reading on the subject on Homochirality I found some information that was pretty consistent with what my ochem teacher was telling me - "The emergence of chirality consensus as a natural autoamplification process has been associated with the 2nd law of thermodynamics." He's got a PhD in physical chemistry and a main portion of his research dealt with converting the equation for mixing entropy from intensive to extensive. He has done this successfully btw - so get ready for some books to get big fat addendums added to 'em.
assuming a selfreplicator must be homochiral (or nearly) the spontaneous formation of such a molecule from a racemic monomer pool is exponentially less likely than from a homochiral pool. The chance of a polymer length n being homochiral from a racemic pool is 1 in .5^n. The generation of a homochiral pool of monomers makes molecular selfreplicators much more likely to arise, but few reasonable scenarios have been published to date. If we knew what molecules actually made up the first molecular selfreplicator, we could probably figure it out...
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the "handedness" doesnt exist in other dimensions so it had to emerge in ours. go to sleep.
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