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Old 12-20-2013, 02:25 PM
Orruar Orruar is offline
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The community can't police itself. It has been proven here, it has been proven on live (Less than 5 servers on live out of the 40 whatever available made it work without staff intervention).

Enforced rotations or bust. Still a million times less work/more effecient than the FTE/Fraps debacle that they have now.
That's bullshit. Plenty of servers had very amicable arrangements without GM enforced anything. And given that this server probably has a much higher average age than any server back on live, I'd think we would have a better than average chance of acting like adults. Except for the manchildren that sit around watching anime all day. But that's a small minority of the server.
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Old 12-20-2013, 02:25 PM
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Except that the recent announcement of an agreement between the remaining top guilds to improve the raid environment here completely destroys your "you = them" theory. Seriously, just stop talking while you have a shred of credibility left. Or you can continue your TMO-fanboi spree and go down on the sinking ship with the rest of the rats.
Make the raid calendar and prove me wrong
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Old 12-20-2013, 02:25 PM
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Deflect harder you toolbag. Make a goddamn point or something you waste of skin/time.
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That "guy" is responsible for 90% of all classic content done on this server and is neither in TMO or FE/IB etc.



You'd know that if you played this game instead of being a child rapist weaboo
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Old 12-20-2013, 02:26 PM
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The community can't police itself. It has been proven here, it has been proven on live (Less than 5 servers on live out of the 40 whatever available made it work without staff intervention).

Enforced rotations or bust. Still a million times less work/more effecient than the FTE/Fraps debacle that they have now.
Yup. Happened on my live server. We had a raid calendar for quite some time but invariably the local uber guild that was sick of waiting wrecked the whole thing. Might makes right is always their attitude. Without the GMs/Staff support of an enforced system all of this is a waste of time. A new TMO will step up and take their place.
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Old 12-20-2013, 02:27 PM
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That's bullshit. Plenty of servers had very amicable arrangements without GM enforced anything.
Prove it.
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And given that this server probably has a much higher average age than any server back on live, I'd think we would have a better than average chance of acting like adults.
Yeah because the last few years on this server totally correlate with that assumption. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Except for the manchildren that sit around watching anime all day. But that's a small minority of the server.
That's just cute. Blaming someone who doesn't play on the server for the problems caused by the people who play on the server. You're just as bad as tiggles.
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Old 12-20-2013, 02:29 PM
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Prove it.

Yeah because the last few years on this server totally correlate with that assumption. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]


That's just cute. Blaming someone who doesn't play on the server for the problems caused by the people who play on the server. You're just as bad as tiggles.
You masterbate to preteen children.

You should be banned irl
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Old 12-20-2013, 02:30 PM
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Yup. Happened on my live server. We had a raid calendar for quite some time but invariably the local uber guild that was sick of waiting wrecked the whole thing. Might makes right is always their attitude. Without the GMs/Staff support of an enforced system all of this is a waste of time. A new TMO will step up and take their place.
See, someone gets it. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 12-20-2013, 02:31 PM
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You masterbate to preteen children.

You should be banned irl
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Prove it.
Again, no content, just ad-hominem drivel. TMO at it's finest.
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Old 12-20-2013, 02:31 PM
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Old 12-20-2013, 02:31 PM
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Just realize with TMO gone, another guild would take its place as getting 80% of the raid mobs.
I've read your posts for awhile and can appreciate what you say. However, after the new agreement that was put into place last night, and the fact TMO is now out of the picture for a brief period of time, can we at least give it a shot before saying it's destined for failure and will never work?

Even if deep down that's what we truly believe. Come on now, you're not going to get any bonus points when/if it falls apart for saying "I told you so!", so let's just try/hope something good can come of this, right?

At least as of today there's a glimmer of hope for peaceful raiding on the server, this time 2 days ago that glimmer wasn't there.

No reason to shit on it and pontificate it's failure, lets do what we can to make things better now. If they don't, at least we tried and it worked for awhile, right?
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