Raid Scene Rage Thread

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by baramur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Monopolize- To dominate by excluding others. Whether training, leap frogging, kiting, or cheating, you held full control of kunark for over 2 years. That would be a monopoly.

(of an organization or group) obtain exclusive possession or control of (a trade, commodity, or service).

Exclusive possession. When guilds competed they were able to get a good 40% or so. That isn't a monopoly. There isnt a barrier to entry to killing 32khp dragons that we created. Anyone at anytime, if they so desired, could have brought 40ppl to the raid scene and picked off targets.

This is an effort based system, where efforts are rewarded. It is not TMO's fault that some guilds wants to put in effort and some didn't.

Glad I could take the time to educate you on the meaning of a word.

[Geofizzle]

40 people? Who is going to have a guild with that kind of zerg numbers really besides TMO? I'm lucky if i can find 1 friend to play with and thats a challenge to even find that! And how am i going to port 40 ppl to that zone with all the dragons? Veeshans Perch is tough too u gotta be keyed to get there...so Traganon I guess would b the target. But I give all my plat to noobs in the tunnel i cant be donating for all those ports dude thats just not feasible for me and my guild so stop trying to spin when I'm the master of arguments u cant outspin it.

[Nirgon]

40-60 is a pretty classic raid # imo

[Geofizzle]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

40-60 is a pretty classic raid # imo

Lol its not 1998 anymore when EQ released sorry man but things change. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Atmas]

So you can maybe argue that TMO has a lot of people but not that it zergs mobs. TMO kills as many mobs with numbers in the low 20s as it does with numbers in the 50s. It usually falls somewhere between. Mobs are killed with who shows up, not waiting for a zerg force.

Still I think the problem that is ignored the most is no live server during Kunark had enough content for the end game population on P99.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are proposing that we can't use alts or park more than one char? This is the first time I've said this since this whole thing started. People are starting to take this whole raid equality thing too far.

Really? I didn't propose any limits on how many mobs you could kill. It's pure competition! Take as many as you want!

More seriously I think this alt explosion that we have seen on the server is one of the worst things about it. First, it keeps people competing for stuff that they otherwise would not need. You wanna know why TMO was still batphoning after two years? Cause everyone needed 2-3 alts to park at targets and then they wanted to gear those alts and so on. Secondly, it requires new players to spend an absolutely ridiculous (and NOT CLASSIC) amount of time gearing up multiple toons. Finally, where is the fun in it? You remove half the action by not having to mobilize and get past guards.

Originally Posted by Pint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Flooding the server with loot from repops decreases their value, this is bad for rmt guys, therefore bad for the servers health because remember rmt is a sign that a server is healthy and thriving.

FWIW repops don't flood the server with items as much as people think. I cannot be bothered to do the math exactly but even a repop every week would increase the items by only 50% or so. Considering how many people we have, that's hardly a disaster.

Originally Posted by Cucumbers

Hasn't the staff stated numerous times now we really won't be seeing a weekly repop?

That does seem to be their position, and it is mindboggling to me, which is why I titled this thread the Raid Scene Rage Thread.

Originally Posted by Maksim

Frankly, I don't see how we could start any simpler than adding more repops with no trains in VP and see how it pans out. Nobody has to watch 2-hour windows, nobody has to keep track of rotations, nobody has to spend points or anything. There's more to go around, with an enforced expectation of less shenanigans, and the standard penalty for shenanigans hurts more. Easy peasy.

Exactly.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Geofizzle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

40 people? Who is going to have a guild with that kind of zerg numbers really besides TMO? I'm lucky if i can find 1 friend to play with and thats a challenge to even find that! And how am i going to port 40 ppl to that zone with all the dragons? Veeshans Perch is tough too u gotta be keyed to get there...so Traganon I guess would b the target. But I give all my plat to noobs in the tunnel i cant be donating for all those ports dude thats just not feasible for me and my guild so stop trying to spin when I'm the master of arguments u cant outspin it.

BDA, Taken, Doljon, FE/IB to name a few.

[jaybone]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

(of an organization or group) obtain exclusive possession or control of (a trade, commodity, or service).

Exclusive possession. When guilds competed they were able to get a good 40% or so. That isn't a monopoly. There isnt a barrier to entry to killing 32khp dragons that we created. Anyone at anytime, if they so desired, could have brought 40ppl to the raid scene and picked off targets.

This is an effort based system, where efforts are rewarded. It is not TMO's fault that some guilds wants to put in effort and some didn't.

Glad I could take the time to educate you on the meaning of a word.

pick off targets when you have your RMT alts sitting at spawns. OK

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by jaybone [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

pick off targets when you have your RMT alts sitting at spawns. OK

hi anon troll account [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Handull]

A Team benefits the most from having a lot of repops. That said, I think we would all benefit from having more repops and less of everything that we have now.