Modified Limit System, Any comments tweaks accepted.

[Yinikren]

Mobs outside of VP would need a points increase if that was the case, because you are taking away one of the main reasons they would go there - to spend points NOT having to compete with every other guild.

The idea is still to moderate mob intake per guild so more guilds get attempts.

[Fazlazen]

Originally Posted by Yinikren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mobs outside of VP would need a points increase if that was the case, because you are taking away one of the main reasons they would go there - to spend points NOT having to compete with every other guild.

The idea is still to moderate mob intake per guild so more guilds get attempts.

So basically, having a force of player keyed to VP should penalize you.

[Yinikren]

No. You don't get penalized by getting better quality mobs. The idea of my thread (which is not this one, btw) is that guilds have to decide what mobs to pursue each week. You don't get VP handed to you for free. You get to go there and not have to compete with casual scum for normal mobs.

[Happyfeet]

Least that makes sense Cucumber. I'm not threatening to leave so I get what I want, I'm simply telling you what I am going to do if this carebear shit gets fully implemented.

I'm the first to invite other guilds on our raids (e.g. Talendor with Europa was fully my idea a few weeks ago) but I'm not going to stick around to kill 3 mobs a week. You all who are still leveling and gearing up have things to do in this game besides raid, I ONLY log in to raid. You have to see the difference.

And trying to count VP mobs against us is just nonsense. And it's not like we're not willing to accept some sort of agreement, but most of your attitudes are "You either do what we say or big mean rogean is gonna keep you suspended" and that's a bullshit attitude to have. Trust me, the idea proposed in this thread, is not going to be the one used - it's trash.

[Yinikren]

I've said it before, I will say it again - you will not like any of the raid terms you are going to have to agree to and abide by because none of them benefit your guild.

[Fazlazen]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

which lead to your suspension, an RMT business coordinated within your ranks, and being shitty to the rest of the server for the sake of being able to claim dominance in RNF.

You have 20 of every epic piece banked and being sold in EC for whatever price you say because of the monopoly.

QUit crying about not be able to monopolize the content anymore. The raid scene is a changing, per Rogaen.

I cant wait for you and others to quit after these threats.

you really sounds mad at something... or somebody =D

[kotton05]

I blame AoE chardok for leveling people to TMO apps

[Garguren]

I don't think any guild deserves a handout of mobs. I just want to see it be a slightly more fair chance. Everyone in TMO seems to want to poop on BDA and dismiss them as an inferior guild. Yet we've been in VP we've killed the majority of the targets available (VP was before my time so I don't know what all was killed in there).

We simply refused to take part in the complete garbage that was VP / top end targets. We do not require people to poopsock, we do not require camped toons. We still put in tracking as hard as every other guild we still mobilize as fast as anyone else.

All I want to see is a raid scene that doesn't require the BS garbage that has ruled for so long. High end targets should require more then who can log in their 45th alt the fastest.

I am all for every guild (who wants to put in the time via tracking ect) to have a fair shot. Everyone wants to see the smaller guilds get a chance at raid targets, yet they do nothing currently to even Try to have a shot. Its hard to justify everyone simply stopping everything they can do so a guild who has done no work at all can slowly get people to log in and try to engage a target.

Rewards should go to those who put in the effort. However make the effort more about a good race and less about logging in pooped / alt toons and insta engage.

[quido]

Trying to engage in a serious discussion with Anthrax, Yendor, or Yinikren is futile. Do yourselves and favor, guilds, and keep these people out of the process when the time for formal negotiations comes.

[quido]

The fact that you don't even see the difference between those people is a testament to your blind stupidity.