Class Experience Penalties

[Muleworth]

what the flying fuck was that?

[Messianic]

This is now a twice-necro'd thread.

[Mirakk82]

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is now a twice-necro'd thread.

Guess it must be relevant then?

[Duie]

even if Xp for these classes was working as intended, The misconception that most people have about hybrids on this server will insure you're still not gonna get a group unless it is a bunch of friends. What Id like to find out;Is deaths based on percentage of the xp you obtain or need to advance? Currently it sure feels like my Ranger looses double the xp on a death than my warrior.


Id much rather see mobs take off at 1/4 health as they did on live than have xp changed. A major reason you never went into kunark or old world places w/o some kind of snare in this era was you'd train yourself if you did. This change alone would give reason to group rangers/druids/wizards//bards for snare and SK/Necro for engulfing darkness....... Which change benefits more classes?

[Mirakk82]

The problem isn't that warriors will be second class citizens to Paladins and Shadowknights suddenly. The problem is that TAUNT MECHANICS are making Warriors second class citizens already! I'd considered playing a warrior, until someone told me that I'd be a shitty tank anyway, and that I shouldn't bother. That's the sentiment that's out there right now.

If taunt worked on mobs post 50, or on mobs above your level, warriors wouldn't have any trouble keeping aggro. You should really address this IMO.

And the only increase in Paladin/Shadowknight etc enrollment that you would see is from the amount of people who are discouraged by having to work twice as hard to be inferior at everything they do anyway just because they like the class.

Last night I was grouped on the orc hill at level 4. I was my group's tank. By the end of the night, my group was level 8-9, and I was level 6. In no way was I a capable tank for my group, as they outpaced me so badly in ONE PLAYING SESSION. That's a little extreme, don't you think? I don't even bother friending non-hybrids because of what I experienced last night. In a week they'll have surnames and be in Unrest just as I'm leaving crushbone.

I played a Dwarf Paladin before, and I want to do it again for flavor's sake. I love to roleplay the character, and I'll take my lumps if I have to, but Jesus this is brutal.

[Swish]

What can be annoying as a troll SK, is being told that a group needs a tank but it would rather wait for one rather than take you in (leaving the likes of a monk to tank while waiting), all because of the experience penalty.

Lunacy in my eyes, perhaps some wisdom in it in others. Troll racial penalty (20%) with hybrid penalty (40%) can slow a group down - but the group will run smoothly with disease cloud taunts and the healer only having to heal the tank, no aggro spraying around and unnecessary heals across the group.

So the penalty can have an effect on hybrids getting groups (although people will happily take in a bard), but with so few tanks on the server comparitively... you begin to wonder if people really can afford to be picky.

[Sethius]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What can be annoying as a troll SK, is being told that a group needs a tank but it would rather wait for one rather than take you in (leaving the likes of a monk to tank while waiting), all because of the experience penalty.

Lunacy in my eyes, perhaps some wisdom in it in others. Troll racial penalty (20%) with hybrid penalty (40%) can slow a group down - but the group will run smoothly with disease cloud taunts and the healer only having to heal the tank, no aggro spraying around and unnecessary heals across the group.

I'd say in general when xping I'd rather have a SK tank then a Warrior tank, just for the utility and aggro generation they bring. The same generally applies to a paladin.

Also, I don't play EQ to level fast so I welcome XP penalties into my group. I know some people do want to level fast and that is their choice, but I personally really can't understand that mentality with EQ, as the journey is as fun or funner in EQ than the destination. For example, I like to have lots of alts just so they can be at different levels and be able to experience different dungeons in the game whenever I want to.

[Shaper]

What if the pen was just lowered, say from 40% to around 25%? that way if you still want to play a hybrid you will still have to work harder but it wont be a near mind numbing exp grind. just my 2 cents =).

[Envious]

Lol, a year and a half of you guys being dumb enough to keep asking?

[Kobias]

I have no problem with XP Penalties if it only effected you,

...but what bothers me is that is effects your group members, and thus your ability to land groups with others =/