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Old 03-18-2014, 03:06 AM
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and the reason some people were hostile from the start was because your post opened with this gem "I believe hell levels are a myth and I have a sound theory as proof"
So for a start, you don't know what "theory" means, and the troll vibe was very strong with that post.
Use real quotes please.

the·o·ry
ˈTHēərē,ˈTHi(ə)rē/
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noun: theory; plural noun: theories

1.
a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, esp. one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained.

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I believe that hell levels are a myth and I have a solid supporting theory.
Do you believe in Hell levels?
Why do you believe in hell levels?
Is there hard evidence that a or multiple hell levels exist?

Comment below and let me know if you believe in hell levels and why.

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My theory to rule out the idea of hell levels was obviously wrong as I admitted many posts ago.

I was just trying to accomplish a better understanding for the game and its mechanics through personal intervention and it worked. Thank you everyone for your input!

It is always good to be aware of the idea that someone may be trolling you.
I however am not trolling and have come to a better understanding with the aid of this community and am grateful for that even if I took some flak for it. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 03-18-2014, 07:13 AM
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30, 35, 40, 45, 51, 54, 59.
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Old 03-18-2014, 09:04 AM
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My theory is that if you can find mobs that can give you even 1% exp, it will always take 100 of those mobs to kill before you level.
HOW CAN YOU BE SURE?!?!?!?
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Old 03-18-2014, 09:31 AM
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The level of stupid in this thread...

Here's a theory for you. If you could create a medicine that cures cancer...not nearly as many people would die from cancer...

Here is another one.

If you paint your living room wall blue, then you will have a blue wall in your house.

If a tire goes flat on your car YOU HAVE A FLAT TIRE!! OMG OMG
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Old 03-18-2014, 10:47 AM
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(A post from Halcyon on eqclassic that explains it well)

Hell levels were just the result of the formula used to calculate how much experience you needed to level. If you look at the formula you can see why those specific levels take that much longer.

http://www.webslinky.com/darkomen/xp/eqexp3.html

Also, looking at the formula, I would make an educated guess and say that they did not intend for the hell levels to be there, but rather for sets of levels to take longer. i.e.: The experience required to level from 35-39 should increase at a faster rate (or accelerate quicker for people that understand that) than the the experience required to go from 30-34. A side effect from that paradigm is that the first level in the new "block" will take that much longer.

As for being built into the client, I 'm guessing it was to save time on calculations or they used it as reference or something like that. Since there is a formula for levels and it differs based on race and class I can't see any other purpose for it to hard coded in the client. I doubt it was in there as "hell level, this should take longer" or anything like that.

This easier formula should explain it better. Say the forumla for the experience required to be a level (L) is as follows:

expNeeded = L * x
From levels 1 - 4, x = 1 and from levels 5 - 9, x = 2.

The amount of exp you need to be the level L is then as follows:

Code:
Level     Total Exp     Exp needed to
          Required     complete level
-----------------------------------------------------------------
1            1               1
2            2               1
3            3               1
4            4               1
5            10              6    <--- Hell Level
6            12              2
7            14              2
8            16              2
9            18              2
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Old 03-18-2014, 11:26 AM
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Both Nef and Kry did 59 in 1 day. Just got to pray to do the chardok gods.
I did 54 and 59 1 day each. Chardok is the way to go, if you can get into the group.
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Old 03-18-2014, 11:31 AM
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What was the point of this thread again? On live they definitely existed, their existence was even confirmed by the development team at one point. I believe it was something to the effect of a badly written equation that was supposed to create a gradual increase in XP needed to level but produced those "hell levels" with drastic spikes. They decided to just keep them. Also they are definitely here.

On both classic live and here the changes in xp necessary for leveling are very noticeable when death occurs on the following level. Losing 10% of the xp for the previous level is much more detrimental to your xp bar when you die in a 36, 41, etc..
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Old 03-18-2014, 12:25 PM
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I believe that hell levels are a myth and I have a solid supporting theory.
Do you believe in Hell levels?
Why do you believe in hell levels?
Is there hard evidence that a or multiple hell levels exist?

Comment below and let me know if you believe in hell levels and why.

Thank you. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
ill lift the myth for you. look closely at the numbers between lvl 40 and lvl 41

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Old 03-19-2014, 01:42 AM
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You guys got to read the entire thread before posting anymore lol is there some way I can like deem this case to be resolved? Because at this point I am either getting flammed and trolled or having the facts reiterated to me.

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