Come together to make corpsing bannable!

[BlkCamel]

Originally Posted by Ducket [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have absolutely no issues waiting for a camp. My problem is with people rotating camps out with their friends/guildies for days on end.

I think you are looking at the problem through rainbow covered glasses because people who actually want to have a chance don't even get it due to the current system which is abused heavily.

Deru stated that whacky corpse lines can't be made. Yet people work whacky corpse lines and nothing can be done about it. So why is it even mentioned that it can't be done when in fact, it is done and nothing comes of it.

Players who do their corpsing at odd hours when no one else is around, fine.. I have no issues with those players. But what about those players who are doing it during peak hours and rotating out the spawns with their fellow guildies/friends via corpsing and adding themselves back to their list.

There are actually people like myself who give a shit and when we roll by and see that kind of thing happening we won't even bother wasting our time asking to be added to the list because 1) They will probably just ignore your messages about a list or being added to it 2) Won't even bother calling you when it would be your turn because lists don't even matter 'only the current camp holder has rights to say who is next'.

The majority of the servers loot/camp rules are vague, bent, and abused. I understand this is a free server and you can try and shove that down my throat all you want, or even ban me because I'm not bending to your mighty Dev powers but I'd like to think I'm one of the good people who likes to see new players continue to play and enjoy their experience here.

As for me, my experience was totally ruined when I got around level 50 and tried to experience money camps. Even if it is open there is always some ass-hole sitting/waiting/hiding for you to fuck up and be afk for 1 second too long because god forbid you have to take a shit during that 12 hour camp.

It's been mentioned to me that Devs don't even care if new players leave so clearly all sides will be taken with long time players who have control over anything they wish. Maybe I just don't belong on a server controlled by Hitler and his minions.

Hyperbole much? Calling dev's and staff Hitler? I think you need to take a deep breathe, you really wont win like this[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Niedar]

I think people who voted yes should play red, if they want the camp then take it.

[GnashingOfTeeth]

There are clearly ppl here that embrace the corpsing, others that detest it.

Either way, thread = teh Jimmys be movin!

[Locust]

Originally Posted by Ducket [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem with that is if corpsing is allowed at all it is always going to be abused by people and ruin the experience for others.

if a guild member manages to find the AC camp open and wants to monopolize it in order to get their guildies booted, that's their prerogative

as is someone who wants to spend their life mindlessly killing PHs to corpse rings for MQ

just because it doesn't agree with your expectations of what a positive experience should be, doesn't mean there should be a rule against it

once you get jboots, whats next? unfair that hierophant is perma camped? tranix? seb king? epic mobs? kunark dragons? vp?

there's a game that caters to people with your opinion of a positive experience

everquest live

[Vidar]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Unfortunately is classic and will not be changed.

how many things on p99 arent classic but wont be changed...

[Naprox]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We totally do this all the time. Nilbog really doesn't care if something drives away players so long as it's classic. We all pretty much share that mentality.



Already do this all the time. Don't want to push them too far, might get shot in a dark alley.

Corpsing lore items isn't a game breaking thing anyway. I know it seems like a huge deal right now, but that sentiment will slowly fade and it will slowly go from world-ending importance down to minor gripe.

Way to not so elegantly spit on us.

You just overtly said "piss off, Nilbog doesn't give a shit that this behavior is caustic and causes more harm than good, we're going to do it because it's classic."

You know, there was another game server with that same "head up your ass" mentality and guess what happened to them as soon as someone made another similar server? 98% of its player base left for the new server. They decided it was better to start all over from 11 years of investment rather than continue to put up with this kind of arrogance. This poll (while purely anecdotal currently) is not saying bow down to the whims of the few vocal minority, rather take note the concerns of people for whom you claim to be providing this service to.

The topic of discussion is significant in so much as has been stated and furthermore, has direct impact upon sustainability of your pet project.

That being said, you're recent clarification on this behavior should imho alleviate the Lore item issue and for that, many of us are grateful. The true concern of the OP I believe is just the general manipulation and deceitfulness of specific individuals. Unfortunately, you can do nothing to change their behavior which will truly address it permanently. There are too many ways to circumvent the system which you have loosely setup in an effort to provide maximum enjoyment to the largest percentage of the player base.

So to the OP I say this, you're on the right pathway for change. It must come from us, the players. There are ways that we can and should deal with individuals who are toxic to the server. Rally your support in game. Your concerns are shared by many.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Ducket [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As for me, my experience was totally ruined when I got around level 50 and tried to experience money camps. Even if it is open there is always some ass-hole sitting/waiting/hiding for you to fuck up and be afk for 1 second too long

waiting for you to fuck up? what server do you play on? on this one, TMO will just train you and get away with it.

[Jfertal]

Originally Posted by Locust [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if a guild member manages to find the AC camp open and wants to monopolize it in order to get their guildies booted, that's their prerogative

as is someone who wants to spend their life mindlessly killing PHs to corpse rings for MQ

just because it doesn't agree with your expectations of what a positive experience should be, doesn't mean there should be a rule against it

once you get jboots, whats next? unfair that hierophant is perma camped? tranix? seb king? epic mobs? kunark dragons? vp?

there's a game that caters to people with your opinion of a positive experience

everquest live

fucking nailed it...

[Jfertal]

Originally Posted by Ducket [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's been mentioned to me that Devs don't even care if new players leave so clearly all sides will be taken with long time players who have control over anything they wish. Maybe I just don't belong on a server controlled by Hitler and his minions.

Also you are extremely delusional and confused ,how have you made it this far in real life?

[Ducket]

Originally Posted by Jfertal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also you are extremely delusional and confused ,how have you made it this far in real life?

I bet you are pleasant to be around...