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Old 09-23-2010, 05:51 PM
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He has a point, guys. Y'all don't know shit if you haven't been there, so lets take it from the actual Blackwater mercenaries themselves, in sworn affidavits given under penalty of perjury:

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A former Blackwater employee and an ex-US Marine who has worked as a security operative for the company have made a series of explosive allegations in sworn statements... The two men claim that the company's owner, Erik Prince, may have murdered or facilitated the murder of individuals who were cooperating with federal authorities investigating the company. The former employee also alleges that Prince "views himself as a Christian crusader tasked with eliminating Muslims and the Islamic faith from the globe," and that Prince's companies "encouraged and rewarded the destruction of Iraqi life.
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Old 09-23-2010, 06:20 PM
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Old 09-23-2010, 06:28 PM
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He has a point, guys. Y'all don't know shit if you haven't been there, so lets take it from the actual Blackwater mercenaries themselves, in sworn affidavits given under penalty of perjury:
Who go by John Doe. An affidavit such as this carries perjury. None of it could be prosecuted, even if they were made up. They are still hearsay.

Read it here:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/thenation/pd...eclaration.pdf

Even at that by executive action they could be shut down with a single utterance of many government officials who have not done so.

Even Obama, who is Muslim right?
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Old 09-23-2010, 06:46 PM
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I'm not really sure where you're going with this, and it doesn't really matter to me, but seeing as I'm from New Orleans, I'll tell you that it was indeed a combat zone post-Katrina. Blackwater was there, too. Post-Katrina was a complete cluster fuck and there was most certainly rape, murder, drug wars, and all other types of criminal behavior going on.
Oh, I wasn't really going anywhere with it, just bringing it up to make my point. People were all up in arms about blackwater employees being there, but they have no problem with a ~250 man infantry unit of Marines.

Just to be clear, I'm friends with a number of guys who were sent down there and am sure they performed admirably and did their best to help alleviate the situation. I'm simply pointing out that if you really want to get angry about who the gov't sent in there to help out - a heavily armed combat unit of Marines being deployed within the boarders of the united states is in my opinion slightly more interesting than a private security firm.
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Old 09-23-2010, 06:52 PM
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Who go by John Doe. An affidavit such as this carries perjury. None of it could be prosecuted, even if they were made up.
This is a critique of the toothlessness of affidavits, not a critique of the veracity of the charges. Can you tell the difference?

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Even at that by executive action they could be shut down with a single utterance of many government officials who have not done so.
So, you're assuming all allegations of misconduct by Blackwater must be false because those with the executive power to reign in Blackwater haven't already done so?

If you really can't see the flaws in that logic, allow me add you to my ignore list.
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Old 09-23-2010, 06:56 PM
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A former Blackwater employee and an ex-US Marine who has worked as a security operative for the company have made a series of explosive allegations in sworn statements... The two men claim that the company's owner, Erik Prince, may have murdered or facilitated the murder of individuals who were cooperating with federal authorities investigating the company. The former employee also alleges that Prince "views himself as a Christian crusader tasked with eliminating Muslims and the Islamic faith from the globe," and that Prince's companies "encouraged and rewarded the destruction of Iraqi life.
Wouldn't the "missing/murdered" federal employees spark an investigation? The crime these people state would be rather high profile and I would think it would garner federal and media attention.

They also state that Erik Prince is a muslim hater, but so are millions of other American's, did these people personally know Erik or is it simply just speculation on their part as they try to incite prejudice as a form of discreditably.

Both those arguments are merely opinion, there is no actual evidence people were contracted to kill informants, nor is there any evidence that Price's view is public record so we can plainly see this is nothing but mere speculation of probably two disgruntled employees
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Old 09-23-2010, 07:16 PM
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for the money they pay blackwater, i'd go back and do whatever they fucking told me to do.
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Old 09-23-2010, 07:16 PM
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Old 09-23-2010, 07:23 PM
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It really scares me when Abacab delivers the most rational argument in a thread.
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Old 09-23-2010, 07:25 PM
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It really scares me when Abacab delivers the most rational argument in a thread.
no, it shouldn't. he's probably one of the few people that actually makes informative and genuinely truthful posts in RnF. Sometimes you just gotta weed thru some of the other ones to pick them out =P
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