Password from Rampage with Video

[Man0warr]

3) Thordoff gets his Efreeti camp stolen by 3 BDA. He was AT the camp (not otw down) so its akin to taking down an ICG in order to get to hiero/rest of named & 3 ppl jumping in to steal the camp he had JUST cleared.

Killing the 4 mobs at the Lily pads and claiming Efreeti doesn't work.

[Senix]

Allishia, Sadre, Pistola were the harrassing and threatening portion of the 6. I can look back at my logs for the night and supply the other 3 who were compliant in the breaking of the play nice policy and the camp rules (kill stealing.) I think Gun put it very well, "I wanted to know who to avoid", and I agree that bda has shown themselves for what they are in the crypt that night and reiterated it here in this thread.

Chest, if you want to define yourself and bda by these examples of action, by all means I will not stop you. But consider for a second, the only thing you would need to do in order to retain you position of "bad players should be punished" is to either remove these 6 from you guild or just simply apologize to this server for your guild mates actions, apologize to rampage for pulling them into your guild's misstep and apologize to tehtra and tattersail for the hassle and experience your guild mates subjected them to in the crypt. Or do nothing and let this thread stand as testament to your hypocrisy, double standards and defamation as the standard for bda.

[contemptor]

This thread is getting good. Post up your logs Senix

[Senix]

Allishia, Sadre, Pistola, Ataka, Azaziel are the bda members involved. After looking, it seems there were 5 and not 6 bda members kill stealing and harassing in the crypt that night.

Originally Posted by contemptor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This thread is getting good. Post up your logs Senix

I already did a few pages back.

Originally Posted by Senix [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Mon Jun 08 18:00:30 2015] dar ghoul knight has been slain by Tehtra!
[Mon Jun 08 18:02:10 2015] skeletal hierophant has been slain by Tehtra!
[Mon Jun 08 18:03:26 2015] Sudz says out of character, 'CC'
[Mon Jun 08 18:03:35 2015] Tehtra says out of character, 'heiro/duke'
[Mon Jun 08 18:04:09 2015] skeletal duke has been slain by Tehtra!
[Mon Jun 08 18:04:13 2015] Allishia says out of character, 'i rezed your shammy, thats so fucked up'
[Mon Jun 08 18:04:15 2015] Azaziel says out of character, 'after we rez your body on way down lol'
[Mon Jun 08 18:07:38 2015] Baron Yosig has been slain by Tattersail!

This is night you were referring to I guess, everything I have in my log shows the rampage duo was there first. Not trying to take sides, but I asked them about joining the duo and they were very nice and offered me a spot after the rogue left. Unlike the BDA members who showed up soon after and just harrassed and kill stole until the duo left.

[Mon Jun 08 18:08:28 2015] Sadre says, 'you guys need help. you wiped, never called camp, used us to rez you, and then do this. really, seek help'
[Mon Jun 08 18:08:32 2015] Pistola says, 'and then you would piggyback on noone'
[Mon Jun 08 18:08:36 2015] Pistola says, 'like you just did'
[Mon Jun 08 18:08:40 2015] Pistola says, 'quite pathetic really'
[Mon Jun 08 18:09:00 2015] Tehtra says, 'except we cleared down here the same as u'
[Mon Jun 08 18:09:06 2015] Tehtra says, 'just used IVU and invis to do it faster'
[Mon Jun 08 18:09:09 2015] Allishia says, 'really?'
[Mon Jun 08 18:09:16 2015] Allishia says, 'thats ur logic?'
[Mon Jun 08 18:09:16 2015] Tehtra says, 'yeah, we killed 3 mobs on the way down here'
[Mon Jun 08 18:09:24 2015] Sadre says, 'you lost this one i'm afraid.'
[Mon Jun 08 18:09:32 2015] Sadre says, 'if it is pure dps, we win'
[Mon Jun 08 18:09:45 2015] Sadre says, 'you want ffa, this is ffa'
[Mon Jun 08 18:10:09 2015] Sadre says, 'wsure it is, you leapfrogged us even tho we were fighting down and had called camp. WE REZZED YOU'
[Mon Jun 08 18:10:18 2015] Tehtra says, 'we didnt leapfrog, we cleared down'
[Mon Jun 08 18:11:24 2015] Sadre says, 'I will talk to cucumbers'

No one was in the crypt except the rampage duo and myself for a couple hours at least until BDA showed up and started all that drama. If that group told you they were at camp before hand you should speak with them about their story because it is not true at all.

I think it quite fitting that this thread, created to bash rampage, and then rallied around under that same notion by BDA has instead produced: The original claim against password of rampage with video shows that rampage was the one who was trained. The crypt issue Chest boasted over was been hashed out and shown that it was the rampage duo were the ones being railroaded by bda in the crypt. And the efreeti event that shows that bda has a history of such actions and double standards that shift and morph to meet any need at hand. All 3 point at bda as the offending party with evidence of logs, screenshots, and video (lol op) and yet bda holds their stance without any sort of contrary evidence whatsoever.

Im unguilded and honestly am interested in raiding. I am considering applying to rampage. However, I'd really like to talk with tehtra or tattersail about the circumstances of their "punishment" if that even actually happened. Given Chest's apparent talent for just making shit up in this thread alone, I wouldn't be surprised if that was indeed a lie as well.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Apply asgard today!

[Senix]

Originally Posted by DetroitVelvetSmooth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Apply asgard today!

Honestly, just dont apply bda, ever. dont know much about asgard but if you can hold to a standard of behavior and not change it for convenience whenever you feel like it, sure apply asgard today!

[indiscriminate_hater]

kind of makes me happy how much rustling is happening over 16 y.o. mobs. i'm not even joking - this is, un-intuitively, the sign of a healthy server

[Man0warr]

[QUOTE=gundumbwing;1935786]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Killing the 4 mobs at the Lily pads and claiming Efreeti doesn't

Yet not even being near a camp and "claiming it" DOES work?

No it doesn't, have to be in camp to claim it. Also, Camp checks in OOC mean nothing.

[Man0warr]

I think it quite fitting that this thread, created to bash rampage, and then rallied around under that same notion by BDA has instead produced: The original claim against password of rampage with video shows that rampage was the one who was trained. The crypt issue Chest boasted over was been hashed out and shown that it was the rampage duo were the ones being railroaded by bda in the crypt. And the efreeti event that shows that bda has a history of such actions and double standards that shift and morph to meet any need at hand. All 3 point at bda as the offending party with evidence of logs, screenshots, and video (lol op) and yet bda holds their stance without any sort of contrary evidence whatsoever.

Your logs don't show any proof of any wrongdoing - all it shows to me is the duo admitting they got a rez from Allishia, then admitting they leapfrogged them with Invis and IVU to get to the Crypt before the group that rezzed them was obviously in route to - dick move.

Also, some random guys word about an Efreeti incident with no proof. You got nothing.

Anyone who has ever come to Chest with concerns and proof of wrongdoing has been acted upon. Sounds like Rampage did the same.

[Llodd]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, some random guys word about an Efreeti incident with no proof. You got nothing.

You think the screenshots were doctored?