Rules Decent Players should abide by...

[Tiewon Shu]

Originally Posted by indiscriminate_hater [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

NBG is inherently unfair. in the long run of play time, you should expect to win the same value of droppable loot as anyone else.

the argument that a 500k-gear-twinked person should yield a dropped item worth 1k to an ungeared player is dumb, assuming they put forth the same amount of effort to get that item to drop. in fact, the twinked person likely had a much bigger impact on getting that item to drop than the untwinked player, but the /ran 100 is based on the assumption that everyone in a group is putting forth the same level of effort.

arguing that the twinked person should yield loot to the non- or lesser-twinked player is just arguing for welfare. the twinked player obviously put a lot of time in to get to that level - why should he or she be obligated to help other players, aside from the huge implicit advantage of enabling the group to kill more mobs? some would argue that super-twinked players should have a higher roll modifier than rusty weapon wielding scrubs.

people who play a lot are also more responsible for the relatively easy access to gear via player-to-player transaction. you can camp seafuries for a few hours to get the pp necessary for an FBSS here, but on live that shit would take days.

the "well maybe the twinked player should just be nice" line is too inane to even attack. get out of your fantasy world, you're already in one

You are obviously trolling. It's a cute troll, though, like the ones that we used to top our pencil erasers with, lol.

[Tiewon Shu]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...Hate to say it but the only FAIR way to handle loot is to have everyone random...The exception to this imo are epic pieces that drop. If a monk needs KC pipe, don't be a jerk and roll on it to sell the MQ.

So why should there be an exception? Because it would totally suck if someone took an item they could not use but only you can? Hypocrisy at it's finest.

[Tiewon Shu]

Originally Posted by slowpoke68 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Played on Brell from 99-01. NBG was the standard. If someone needed on something they couldn't use that was an upgrade for another member of the group....they would not be invited to any groups by any members of that party again. Also, it is something that would have been mentioned in each member's guild chat, like don't group with this guy, he just did X.

I was on Rodcet Nife and that is how I remembered it to.

[Deckk]

Originally Posted by Tiewon Shu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was on Rodcet Nife and that is how I remembered it to.

Almost wonder if some of the people claiming they played classic didn't actually play classic.

So far Rodcet, Prexus and Brell folks have said it was NBG on their servers in that time frame...

[theaetatus]

People need to stop acting like NBG is some sort of ideal or fair system, or even something to aspire to. It isn't. It is inherently unfair unless the camp you are at has an equal chance of dropping useable loot of the same value for all classes.

I can't think of any such camps, unless all of the items from the camp are All/All in which case NBG is irrelevant.

[Tiewon Shu]

Originally Posted by theaetatus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...I can't think of any such camps, unless all of the items from the camp are All/All in which case NBG is irrelevant.

What about dungeons?

[Wfrench1234]

What about them? Can't camp the whole zone

[Riotgirl]

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[Tiewon Shu]

Originally Posted by Wfrench1234 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What about them? Can't camp the whole zone

Well don't camp then, crawl as intended.

[Jimjam]

Perhaps NBG could mean everyone should get to roll on items because everyone needs cash. Gear can be cashed out and cash can be used to buy gear in EC.

Warriors are the most gear dependant class, ergo warriors should get all loot rights by NBG.

Heard it here first.
Jimjam - Halfling Warrior.