Do you hope for Trump or Clinton to win?

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Lurikeen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BTW, Secular law doesn't "trump" divine law. Never has and never will (this is the foundation of the US Constitution). The problem is when secular governments uphold themselves above natural law which is instituted by God.

You do realize that this is the same argument, mind set, and logic used by groups like ISIS to rationalize their violence, right?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ejga4kJUts

[Trollhide]

Originally Posted by Lurikeen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BTW, Secular law doesn't "trump" divine law. Never has and never will (this is the foundation of the US Constitution). The problem is when secular governments uphold themselves above natural law which is instituted by God.

Not sure if trolling or just delusional [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Trungep99]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like Putin too. I will feel better about our misogynistic society though if we are able to place a vagina in the Oval Office, but not on a dong.

if Trump wins, Edward Snoden gets full pardon?

[Jorgam]

Originally Posted by Trungep99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if Trump wins, Edward Snoden gets full pardon?

Probably not, but he should! The NSA is a crime against humanity and has yet to stop any actual disaster. Snowden is a hero imo.

[Freakish]

Aw man I can't change my vote. I guess this is reality.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Jorgam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Probably not, but he should! The NSA is a crime against humanity and has yet to stop any actual disaster. Snowden is a hero imo.

I wouldn't be surprised he's offered a deal, one that doesn't result in being mysteriously murdered in prison. They might want his testimony in court etc. Depends how much follow through the Don is going to deliver on with his threats of exposing stuff and prison times when he's in.

[Jorgam]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wouldn't be surprised he's offered a deal, one that doesn't result in being mysteriously murdered in prison. They might want his testimony in court etc. Depends how much follow through the Don is going to deliver on with his threats of exposing stuff and prison times when he's in.

This is one thing I don't think Trump will truly do. So far in the primary I've agreed with or not cared about most things trump says or is for, however his stance on the privacy of citizens is not one I agree with. During the aftermath of San Bernardino, when the FBI wanted to strong arm Apple into hacking their own software, Trump supported that. I don't support the government having the ability to force a company to destroy the trust of their consumers and rob said consumers of their right to privacy because they (the gov.) fucked up.

I hope I'm wrong.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Jorgam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is one thing I don't think Trump will truly do. So far in the primary I've agreed with or not cared about most things trump says or is for, however his stance on the privacy of citizens is not one I agree with. During the aftermath of San Bernardino, when the FBI wanted to strong arm Apple into hacking their own software, Trump supported that. I don't support the government having the ability to force a company to destroy the trust of their consumers and rob said consumers of their right to privacy because they (the gov.) fucked up.

I hope I'm wrong.

Hard to say, which is why I say might. If he does, it could result in the JFK effect, ya know? But there are things on the surface, such as Hillary, Benghazi, and a long shot being WTC. But you know, there is a whole lot more underneath that. He doesn't need to necessarily expose it to the public to break it up, or try to.

Sure, I don't agree with him on everything he says. One thing for sure, he can't do it all, the damage might take 16 years to reverse.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wouldn't be surprised he's offered a deal, one that doesn't result in being mysteriously murdered in prison. They might want his testimony in court etc. Depends how much follow through the Don is going to deliver on with his threats of exposing stuff and prison times when he's in.

Well we don't know if Snowden did any real damage as the documents he allegedly took we have no way to view them in their entirety.

He submitted them responsibly directly to major media outlets and let them audit them.

No one was hurt, and if you look at the facts, the media has censored it very well and protected US interests.

Pardon and leave him alone. If he leaked to wikileaks or another enemy of the USA who would publish the documents without censoring then alright maybe I could see some prison time.

Those are the raw facts.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Those are the raw facts.

Well yeah, in general, even if Donald drops some punishment, it won't be anywhere as severe as this administration wants for him (from the crap I've heard them say). If he gets in, I'm pretty confident Snowden will come back with at the most something that doesn't exceed four years of punishment (i.e. probation etc.).

I'm pro-whistleblower, but Snowden did cross some line so should receive some slap on the wrist for punishment, just to save face for the law. Even as far as crossing the line, it was probably the wise choice to flee, these people are really bad... imo downright evil.

This is a failure of this administration and the voters that elected them for the most part. Grr Bush too (I didn't vote for him). They spend more time and money investigation US! compared to the illegal aliens they let in with wide open globalist borders. And excuse me for suggesting your a racist few weeks back, don't think you are, just my teeth ache sometimes and I like the taste of raw flesh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
I'll try to take it out on sushi. so yum