"Need before greed"

[Hazek]

Originally Posted by Wallicker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I thought plat and items were the same? Now you want plat AND high tier items given to you when I offered you free plat?!!! Gtfoh! Again I’m sorry you are poor OP and apparently extremely greedy with a high dose of entitlement

You're calling me poor because I want items and a fair roll on them. So that means if you want a single item then you're a hypocrite. So you gunna give em all to me or accept the fact?

[Wallicker]

Originally Posted by Hazek [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're calling me poor because I want items and a fair roll on them. So that means if you want a single item then you're a hypocrite. So you gunna give em all to me or accept the fact?

You are brain dead I was legit offering to throw you some plat...

[Tethler]

Are all these guys disagreeing with the greed everything idea new to p99? That's how people have done it on blue for years. People only really do NBG with friends and guildies. With strangers its always greed everything. If you see people pass on blue, its not out of generosity, its because they dont want to be bothered selling the item in the tunnel.

[Hazek]

Originally Posted by Tethler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are all these guys disagreeing with the greed everything idea new to p99? That's how people have done it on blue for years. People only really do NBG with friends and guildies. With strangers its always greed everything. If you see people pass on blue, its not out of generosity, its because they dont want to be bothered selling the item in the tunnel.

Some groups are like that but not always. People generally assume that its greedy to roll on an item you can't equip because "need before greed" even though thats backwards. So I made this thread to point out that fact and so they stop acting like its wrong to roll on a tradeable items just because your class "can't use it".

[gnomishfirework]

If something is worth less than 1k, I prefer NBG< but once the monetary value rises I get greedy. If i like you though NBG all day even on something like a tstaff, though.

[Hazek]

Originally Posted by gnomishfirework [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If something is worth less than 1k, I prefer NBG< but once the monetary value rises I get greedy. If i like you though NBG all day even on something like a tstaff, though.

Wanting a fair roll on items you deserve isn't greedy though. Its greedy to expect people to give it to you (like the NBG system implies) just because you can immediately equip it while others would have to trade it. But that doesn't mean you cant be generous.

[Tilien]

If we assume that you are a decent level and can make 100 plat an hour farming easily... And it takes you 1 hour to sell the Jagger band for 150 plat...

You got 50 plat from looting the item.

The warrior who uses it saves himself spending 150 plat and has therefore made 150 plat from looting the item.

Therefore if you looting the item to sell means you value your 50 plat over the warrior's 150 plat. This is greedy.

#economics
(Hopefully no one takes this too serious)

[drdrakes]

Yeah all this "NBG" on green is not very EQ to me. Many camps only drop items for certain classes. When I was leveling I would often be grouped for hours watching people get 1000s of plat in words or something when most people in the group leave with maybe 20-50p, just as a for instance.

[Keebz]

Originally Posted by Tilien [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If we assume that you are a decent level and can make 100 plat an hour farming easily... And it takes you 1 hour to sell the Jagger band for 150 plat...

You got 50 plat from looting the item.

The warrior who uses it saves himself spending 150 plat and has therefore made 150 plat from looting the item.

Therefore if you looting the item to sell means you value your 50 plat over the warrior's 150 plat. This is greedy.

#economics
(Hopefully no one takes this too serious)

It's not even your 50 plat. It's a 1:6 chance to get that 50pp. How much could you sell your roll on jagged band for? 10pp? That is what you are sacrificing to give someone a gear upgrade. Not to mention it's a waste of everyone's time.

Obviously things change when it comes to 1k+ highly sought after and liquid liquid items. Greed rolls on fbss and topor make sense. On a jagged band? Not so much.

[Frostback]

No one in their right mind would call need before greed on a fbss. The value of the item makes a big difference, also your ability to farm rare items/make pp has an impact on this as well. I don't spend a lot of time in the ec tunnel so I tend to sell things cheap and fast. If an item drops and is under 500p, i'll ask if anyone needs it, and if they don't, roll it up. If you're a mage and you lose a roll for some high level research pages, then offer pp to the person who won it. Usually if you're nice, the person who won it will give you the item at a discounted price. Having a random lottery to award a valuable item to party members is not greedy, it's fair.

"I'm a mage so I deserve the items that I can use!" Grow up.... Or solo because you don't know how to share.