Mage pet chain summoning on Blue is broken

[Rygar]

Plain disrespectful the dev hate and tinfoil hat conspiracies here. Take a step back folks

[Tann]

Originally Posted by pasi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the existence of bard swarm (swarm kiting; not AE kiting) demonstrates a lack of pet hate transfer to the owner.

I'd like to clarify, maybe I was misinterpreting the point here, that bard swarm kiting (charm) has never worked on p99 due to pet hate transferring to the bard once charm breaks. Hate can almost immediately be reacquired if its 1v1, but 1vswarm doesn't function correctly at all.

Though I suppose if it did work properly then it would demonstrate that the lack of pet hate transfer is a thing.

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by Rygar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Plain disrespectful the dev hate and tinfoil hat conspiracies here. Take a step back folks

An Honest: we know it's not classic butt my pally couldn't go up to PoSky in 2010 because a mage got his and or hers spot because people are toxic poopoopeelords so it's staying nerfed. Also someone probably soloed king Tranix or something with a mage which was probably doable in classic so we only want enchanters doing that. Hopefully this helps more.

Would go a long way to ending this thread and clearing the air. I am not upset. Just advocating for honor, integrity, and honesty and transparency. It's OK to literally be salty about mages and for the sake of the community and toxicity to nerf pet chains. It's even better to be forthright about it. Even tho tis'aint, classic.

Caveat: it's a nerf the original eq devs *would* have made if the server stayed in velious two decades.

[Rygar]

People acting like they know true intentions around here. Dev a project for 15 years on a buggy emu to walk a mile in their shoes.

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by Rygar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People acting like they know true intentions around here. Dev a project for 15 years on a buggy emu to walk a mile in their shoes.

Dude your making a dumb assumption.

I'm not calling you dumb. Just your assumption.

G-d bless ! <3 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Croco]

Originally Posted by Rygar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People acting like they know true intentions around here. Dev a project for 15 years on a buggy emu to walk a mile in their shoes.

People assume because there's zero communication and zero transparency, so people will continue to do so until that changes.

[loramin]

Rygar, you're all about evidence, right? Well, there's a wealth of evidence that Nilbog favors/disfavors certain classes with the classic fixes he does/doesn't make.

Now, does that prove that (say) Nilbog <3's Enchanters and hates Mages? No, it absolutely doesn't! The seeming disparity could absolutely be explained by something else reasonable, like that some bugs are harder to fix than others.

But (as Croco noted) in the absence of any communication whatsoever from the dev team, literally all we have to go by is evidence. If Nilbog gave a flying Dutchman what any of us thought, he could dispell any false impressions with a single post ...

... but he doesn't, and so I'm convinced he simply doesn't care what we think. So, again, that just leaves us with the evidence we can see.

[branamil]

Can we give the p99 source code to TAKP? At least they deliver frequent updates and fixes and actually communicate.

[pasi]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rygar, you're all about evidence, right? Well, there's a wealth of evidence that Nilbog favors/disfavors certain classes with the classic fixes he does/doesn't make.

Now, does that prove that (say) Nilbog <3's Enchanters and hates Mages? No, it absolutely doesn't! The seeming disparity could absolutely be explained by something else reasonable, like that some bugs are harder to fix than others.

This seems like a lack of understanding of game mechanics? Pet's transferring hate generated to owners is a significant drawback for magicians and charming classes (i.e enchanters, bards, druids, and necros to a much lesser extent). Gutting this mechanic would remove the need (or drastically lower in the context of other hate generated) to successfully memory blur NPCs on re-charms for enchanters.

[loramin]

I apologize! I came back into this from the "New Posts" link, not noticing that it was in the bugs forum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To clarify, my post (for what I thought was the general forum) was trying to say:

• A) Nilbog doesn't seem to care what the peanut gallery thinks
• B) Bug fix priority is determined without any communication (presumably because of A)
• C) Bug fix priority can (and often does) suggest bias

When C happens, and there's no dev communication (B), it's normal/logical for people to discuss the possibility of bias ... (which Nilbog himself would presumably ignore, per A) ...

... but again, all of that was in the abstract! This discussion clearly doesn't belong in a bug thread, and again I apologize for not noticing the forum when I posted. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]