Fate of P99 blue

[Jigga]

vztz had on average 80-120players but that was two boxing so its 40-60 actual people. Usually around 20 in top guild 20 in 2nd guild and other 20 casual players. Vztz saw higher peaks at start of server but number dipped down fast.

Ive seen 52 people in fear working together on p99 and CT wasnt even up. I heard first few trak raids had higher, but i only heard that so maybe a lie
The heresy crew is probably around 25 crew if all come back and play. Unless they decide they want to guild with people they had shit stomped or take in people from p99 i see the a p99 guild being a bigger force than heresy/tdt or what ever.

How many show up for Trak and kunark dragon raids? 20,30,40,50? I havent payed attention. Im asking because i dont know and havent been on in a while to see and only hear rumors

[Prince]

im super glad we have a bunch of ppl that have never played on a pvp server declaring that they in fact know for sure what is best for the upcoming pvp server

[Knuckle]

Originally Posted by Doors [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Knuckle you'll probably be the first to join up with a fucking zerg guild, stop trolling for ffa its fail like U.

Yeah that sounds like me always joining up with the zerg guilds [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I MADE a zerg guild once, spent the majority of my time playing in small elite guilds thanks.

[Knuckle]

Originally Posted by Jigga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

vztz had on average 80-120players but that was two boxing so its 40-60 actual people. Usually around 20 in top guild 20 in 2nd guild and other 20 casual players. Vztz saw higher peaks at start of server but number dipped down fast.

Ive seen 52 people in fear working together on p99 and CT wasnt even up. I heard first few trak raids had higher, but i only heard that so maybe a lie
The heresy crew is probably around 25 crew if all come back and play. Unless they decide they want to guild with people they had shit stomped or take in people from p99 i see the a p99 guild being a bigger force than heresy/tdt or what ever.

How many show up for Trak and kunark dragon raids? 20,30,40,50? I havent payed attention. Im asking because i dont know and havent been on in a while to see and only hear rumors

exactly. our reputation proceeds us, i think red99 will be the biggest challenge the vets from vztz have ever seen.

[Justown]

alot of <Defiant> and <Torrent> in Heresy from VZ? i was in <Aduentus> for awhile and i kno there is one or 2.

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Knuckle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol zerg guild... teams turns the server into....2 giant zerg guilds omg..

also, FFA means only ONE GUILD, the guild that can rule by right of might, gets the raid mob. No one should be given immunity because of their race and feel that they have equal rights to a raid mob. That's bullshit, if you can't beat the other guild for it than you don't get it. This is not blue 99 with a dash of red. It's mothafuckin red99.

Two (or three? Since you could always have a neutral team..) giant zerg guilds is better than one giant zerg guild and a whole bunch of small guilds plus unguilded people. When people organize under one enormous tag on day one, that gives them a big advantage over the many casual players who are likely unguilded, plus the small guilds who don't have the advantage of being part of a larger pre-established clique. On a teams server, the relative advantage of the team with the zerg guild in it is a lot smaller than on an FFA server.

Look at it this way. Say you form a zerg guild of 25 (unboxed) people, while the rest of the server consists of 100 people. Say that those 100 people split off evenly into each team, and so you have 50 people joining the good team, while 50 people go to the evil team. Now the good team outnumbers their only competitor (the evil team) by 3 to 2. This isn't great, sure, but the alternative is even worse. On an ffa server those 25 people outnumber unguilded people by 25 to 1, they'll surely outnumber small guilds by even more than 3 to 2, and if there's another zerg guild with comparable numbers, then it might as well be a teams server since the only meaningful difference is that the big guilds get to grief casual players more easily.

Sure, it's not great when someone is camping an item or engaging a raid boss and you can't kill them because they're on your team. But a small sacrifice to the end-game experience is worth it so that the server's population stays healthy.

[Chanur]

Originally Posted by Salty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

FFA REULSET IS ONLY REULSET


pals can't hit guildies, AND those in the same group (imo).

My buddy and I would use charm on a mob or two then drop group and rape them all. Ah FFA how broken you are. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Knuckle]

Originally Posted by Chanur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My buddy and I would use charm on a mob or two then drop group and rape them all. Ah FFA how broken you are. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

how is that broken, they agreed to group with you, you maybe got some kills, but you betrayed the people you grouped with to what advantage? FFA ruleset allows people to be people. If you can't function without hardcoded rules or if you choose to go that route more power to you, doesn't mean it works on everyone.

[Chanur]

Originally Posted by Knuckle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

how is that broken, they agreed to group with you, you maybe got some kills, but you betrayed the people you grouped with to what advantage? FFA ruleset allows people to be people. If you can't function without hardcoded rules or if you choose to go that route more power to you, doesn't mean it works on everyone.

The advantage was we got to exp with a group until we were done, then we got to take the groups coin and 1 item of our choice from everyone. Was awesome for us, and shitty for them.

[mimixownzall]

Originally Posted by Knuckle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol zerg guild... teams turns the server into....2 giant zerg guilds omg..

also, FFA means only ONE GUILD, the guild that can rule by right of might, gets the raid mob. No one should be given immunity because of their race and feel that they have equal rights to a raid mob. That's bullshit, if you can't beat the other guild for it than you don't get it. This is not blue 99 with a dash of red. It's mothafuckin red99.

See? As I have been saying all along. You guys anticipate being top dogs. The thought of some competition frightens you.

This talk of same team shit is dumb and you obviously never played on a teams server (at least not SZ). It is a PVP server. People join to pvp, if not they can stay on p99. People will either join the top guild or form one on a different team to compete.

Think about it. If you were in the other person's shoes, what would you do? Would you continue to be on that team and squabble about rights to raid mobs or would you join the opposing team and duke it out?

The mentality on teams is different too. You work a lot better with others on your team because you might need their help one day, or you might need to join them cause your guild folded or whatever. There is a much larger sense of communion due to pvp.