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View Poll Results: What's Next for P99?
Green 2.0 : new progression server that eventually merges into Green 1.0 45 24.19%
Purple 99 : VZ/TZ server race based pvp 31 16.67%
Wipe Red99 : peak players is 30 anyways, will increase ms by 0.1 on Green and Blue 18 9.68%
Merge Green 1.0 into Blue 92 49.46%
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Old 04-20-2022, 09:19 AM
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remember GM reserve blue characters name for green players? how do they gonna solve duplicate character name if green and blue merge togather?
The same way every MMORPG handles name conflicts when you merge servers. The person that had the name longer keeps it and the other person gets a free rename.
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Old 04-20-2022, 09:39 AM
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I don't see the point in keeping both Blue and Green running as they are in perpetuity after the Sleeper is awake. It's an unnecessary split of the playerbase.

Even without a fresh new Green 2.0 I think merging the servers is the best course of action.

What if Green 2.0 started out as post-Velious instead of TLP, and with a modified Sleeper script so it's not a permanent change? So manastones and guises won't exist but on day 1 we can make our iksar monks and necros, we won't be dealing with that horrible hybrid xp penalty and we can move to Velious in our 30s if we wanted. Just a thought to change things up a bit.

I wasn't here for the launch of Green 1.0 but I can imagine people were holding off on making necros and monks and were concentrating on farming items like manastones instead of playing the game as it actually was at Everquest's launch where you didn't know your human monk would be superseded or that manastones would be removed from drop tables.
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Old 04-20-2022, 10:09 AM
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I don't see the point in keeping both Blue and Green running as they are in perpetuity after the Sleeper is awake. It's an unnecessary split of the playerbase.
Definitely agree here. No point in running 2 identical servers when 1 could easily hold the pop of both as blue did for many years. While we're at it what the hell is the plan for Red? Just gonna keep it running forever with 12 people on it? Why not do something less pointless with the server/resources?
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Old 04-20-2022, 10:14 AM
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Definitely agree here. No point in running 2 identical servers when 1 could easily hold the pop of both as blue did for many years. While we're at it what the hell is the plan for Red? Just gonna keep it running forever with 12 people on it? Why not do something less pointless with the server/resources?
You mean Sullon Zek race server? Or was it diety-based teams?

Oh how I yearn to relive for a while that chaotic mess of green ganking and cheating/hacking everywhere lol.
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Old 04-20-2022, 03:16 PM
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I don't think there would ever be a long term Red server. It seems that PvP, even on a fresh server would lose it's novelty quickly (maybe a few months). Granted, it would probably be a ton of fun until the hard core PvPers move out of the pack and become oppressively overpowered.

The sad fact is that PvP in EQ is horribly imbalanced, especially on a fresh PvP server, not to mention PvP in Everquest clearly brings out the most horrible behavior in the players, or maybe it's that the most horribly depraved players gravitate to PvP. Griefing is either really easy in EQ, or it's more gratifying due to the added pains of dying in EQ.
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Old 04-20-2022, 03:27 PM
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I don't think there would ever be a long term Red server. It seems that PvP, even on a fresh server would lose it's novelty quickly (maybe a few months). Granted, it would probably be a ton of fun until the hard core PvPers move out of the pack and become oppressively overpowered.

The sad fact is that PvP in EQ is horribly imbalanced, especially on a fresh PvP server, not to mention PvP in Everquest clearly brings out the most horrible behavior in the players, or maybe it's that the most horribly depraved players gravitate to PvP. Griefing is either really easy in EQ, or it's more gratifying due to the added pains of dying in EQ.
Yep totally agree, and on Sullon Zek griefing was ridiculously easy. I have fond memories of the server only because it was so comical how bad it was. Great comical fun.

A brand new Green 2.0 where everyone is poopsocking manastones and guises again while waiting to create their iksar necros and monks isn't necessarily the best choice for a new server either but it could be the only one.
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Old 04-20-2022, 03:26 PM
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Hard core PVPers dont usually move out of the pack. Hard core raiders do, and there is a point where hard core raiders (in velious) melees and casters are basically unaffected by spells and it's pretty hard to PVP them.

So some people with persistence stick it out and disrupt raids without much hope of really "defeating" the opponent.

On live servers there was a lot of cooperation at level 60 because people generally want to get dragon loot and not waste hours of their time training eachother, or whatever.

But you can bring up the batman dark knight "watch the world burn" quote if you want.

The problem with PVP on p99 is the same problem with PVE, people rushing to max level and leaving all the rest of the game content totally vacant.
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Old 04-20-2022, 08:23 PM
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Wasn't SZ the server with Fansy?
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Old 04-20-2022, 11:12 PM
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Wasn't SZ the server with Fansy?
He was Sullon Zek and an absolute legend, so much so that he inspired I think an NPC in WoW?

Making the priest of discord kill everyone in Rivervale cracks me up. Go go good team!
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Old 04-20-2022, 08:27 PM
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Pretty sure he was on one of the original faction pvp servers, tallon or vallon.
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