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Old 01-03-2023, 05:07 PM
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It's perfectly normal to fear people for being different from you ... but that doesn't make it right.
A bloody psychopath swinging a chainsaw is different than me.

Am I a bad person if I fear that person?

"Only the Sith deal in absolutes." (Even though that statement is an absolute)

Fuck the Sith and Fuck the Jedi.

And fuck the moral arbiters on the Left. They can eat all the dicks.
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Old 01-03-2023, 05:19 PM
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If we are going to restrict speech to save lives and health outcomes we have two possible positions on a spectrum

1 would be the current Twitter, which seems sort of an anything goes. If Twitter devolves into a cesspool of misinformation and bigotry it will chase 90% of decent people away, fail as a platform, and in that regard will be a decent experiment that type 1 does not work

In the middle of the spectrum we have how YouTube and the like currently operate. You can talk shit about trans people there and usually get away with it

But I propose a new type, on the other side of the spectrum. A type designed to save lives. This social media will require anyone who makes an account to allow social media to do a background check. Any person with a history of multiple incidents of violence and especially gang activity WILL NOT be able to make an account. This is because, according to interviews I’ve seen of gang members, a lot of gang beefs, and just beefs between young poor thugs in the ghetto, start or continue over social media. And sometimes end up in murder. Taking social media away from poor violent criminals will probably prevent more actual death than from all the 4chan inspired mass murderers combined, in terms of total deaths

For the health component, social media should go full credentialism. In order to post ANY opinion or recommendation about health, wellness, or medicine on social media you MUST show proof of a medical doctorate or a graduate-level degree in a related field. Most of my favorite heath and wellness experts I follow do have graduate degrees in either medicine, exercise science, and/or nutrition, so this wouldn’t change much about the information I take in. There are, unfortunately, some very smart/informed but not formally educated people like Derek from MPMD youtube channel who will be shut down, but unfortunately sometimes you gotta wash the baby out with the bath water

We have experiment 1, let’s see the experiment of the opposite: major speech control meant to save lives and protect health. If that starts to work, let’s restrict harder. Let’s make China jealous, IMO
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Old 01-03-2023, 05:22 PM
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If we are going to restrict speech to save lives and health outcomes we have two possible positions on a spectrum

1 would be the current Twitter, which seems sort of an anything goes. If Twitter devolves into a cesspool of misinformation and bigotry it will chase 90% of decent people away, fail as a platform, and in that regard will be a decent experiment that type 1 does not work

In the middle of the spectrum we have how YouTube and the like currently operate. You can talk shit about trans people there and usually get away with it

But I propose a new type, on the other side of the spectrum. A type designed to save lives. This social media will require anyone who makes an account to allow social media to do a background check. Any person with a history of multiple incidents of violence and especially gang activity WILL NOT be able to make an account. This is because, according to interviews I’ve seen of gang members, a lot of gang beefs, and just beefs between young poor thugs in the ghetto, start or continue over social media. And sometimes end up in murder. Taking social media away from poor violent criminals will probably prevent more actual death than from all the 4chan inspired mass murderers combined, in terms of total deaths

For the health component, social media should go full credentialism. In order to post ANY opinion or recommendation about health, wellness, or medicine on social media you MUST show proof of a medical doctorate or a graduate-level degree in a related field. Most of my favorite heath and wellness experts I follow do have graduate degrees in either medicine, exercise science, and/or nutrition, so this wouldn’t change much about the information I take in. There are, unfortunately, some very smart/informed but not formally educated people like Derek from MPMD youtube channel who will be shut down, but unfortunately sometimes you gotta wash the baby out with the bath water

We have experiment 1, let’s see the experiment of the opposite: major speech control meant to save lives and protect health. If that starts to work, let’s restrict harder. Let’s make China jealous, IMO
Or we can just tell the moral busy bodies to go fuck themselves and point to the 1st Amendment.

They've pushed us around too long.

No Compromise.
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Old 01-03-2023, 05:26 PM
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Or we can just tell the moral busy bodies to go fuck themselves and point to the 1st Amendment.

They've pushed us around too long.

No Compromise.
They can’t go fuck themselves. They are looking for meaning; they are the protagonists in their own life story of heroism. And we on the right are the evil mustache-twirling cartoon villains opposing them with our twisted schemes

Just last night we had a White Supremacy meeting about how we can keep black people from voting. I’ll DM you some of the ideas we came up with
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Old 01-03-2023, 05:27 PM
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Or we can just tell the moral busy bodies to go fuck themselves and point to the 1st Amendment.

They've pushed us around too long.

No Compromise.
You do understand the First Amendment has nothing whatsoever to do with companies stifling speech ... right?

It's about stopping the government from censoring speech. In fact, the right for private companies to censor whatever the hell they want is protected by the very amendment you reference.

(Now, that being said, even the 1st has limits: no yelling "fire" in a crowded theater and all that.)
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Old 01-03-2023, 05:29 PM
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It's perfectly normal to fear people for being different from you ... but that doesn't make it right.
Oh please. Yes, I do "fear" kids being abused when they are young, impressionable, easily confused and will trust whatever the adults in their lives tell them.

I don't particularly care what grown adults over the age of 18 choose to do. Have a blast, live your best life etc.. kids being exploited and abused is the whole issue. Lots of lgbtq people oppose this child drag show shit too, btw. Not to mention "gender affirming healthcare" which is another insidiously deceptive euphemism that skirts around ever describing what is entailed within it (much like "women's reproductive healthcare" which actually means killing a baby and throwing it in the garbage).
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Old 01-03-2023, 05:34 PM
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You do understand the First Amendment has nothing whatsoever to do with companies stifling speech ... right?
And why do we protect our speech from government interference?

Because it's shitty and undemocratic in nature to stifle speech period. No matter who is doing it.

And the 1st Amendment absolutely protects your speech from private people/groups.

Look up "Heckler's Veto". That specifically protects your speech from private violators.

And we've already proven that the US Government can't separate itself from private companies like Twitter and Facebook, so the 1st Amendment should absolutely apply here.

Full fucking stop.
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Old 01-03-2023, 05:36 PM
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Oh please. Yes, I do "fear" kids being abused when they are young, impressionable, easily confused and will trust whatever the adults in their lives tell them.

I don't particularly care what grown adults over the age of 18 choose to do. Have a blast, live your best life etc.. kids being exploited and abused is the whole issue. Lots of lgbtq people oppose this child drag show shit too, btw. Not to mention "gender affirming healthcare" which is another insidiously deceptive euphemism that skirts around ever describing what is entailed within it (much like "women's reproductive healthcare" which actually means killing a baby and throwing it in the garbage).
It's no use, bro.

They won't consider any of your concerns.

We have to respect their concerns. We have to obey their little social needs, but if you have any opinions or worries, fuck you. You have to sit down, shut up, and listen.

Fuck them.
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Old 01-03-2023, 05:37 PM
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(Now, that being said, even the 1st has limits: no yelling "fire" in a crowded theater and all that.)
And this isn't even true:

https://reason.com/2022/10/27/yes-yo...owded-theater/
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Old 01-03-2023, 05:45 PM
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Its "disorderly conduct" to cause panic for fun.

Pretty easy arrest there.
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