Why is everyone against item loot?

[Sniperfire]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everything can be considered detrimental to server health. I heard the same predictions about p99 before it launched.

No translocators - detrimental to server health
No soulbinders - detrimental to server health
No boxing - detrimental to server health
No classic exp rate - detrimental to server health

And after the server launched?

Keep global chat, else it will be detrimental to server health!
Get rid of exp penalties, else it will be detrimental to server health!

On and on. I don't believe any of you can predict the future and most predictions are just wrong.

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I'm not forcing my opinions for pvp, because pvp servers had different rules.

I think if there's a twinked out lvl 9 in full rubi killing all the newbs, 10 of them should be able to rape him and take a piece. It's naive to assume that no item loot will stop griefing. The griefers will just be able to keep all their gear.

all of these things have hurt server pop i know 20 or 30 people personally including me that wont even waste time there cause of them god knows how many i dont know that feel the same....put in item loot you will remove it that or you will end up blaming the low population on lack of interest in pvp rather than taking the blame for thinking you know everything about everything

[Tajin]

Originally Posted by Sniperfire [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

all of these things have hurt server pop i know 20 or 30 people personally including me that wont even waste time there cause of them god knows how many i dont know that feel the same....put in item loot you will remove it that or you will end up blaming the low population on lack of interest in pvp rather than taking the blame for thinking you know everything about everything

all of those things not in will hurt the server pop, i know 100-150 people personally including me that wont even waste time there cause of them god knows how many i dont know that feel the same....take out item loot and you will end up blaming the low population on lack of interest in pvp rather than taking the blame for thinking you know everything about everything

[Tajin]

Originally Posted by Sniperfire [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

all of these things have hurt server pop i know 20 or 30 people personally including me that wont even waste time there cause of them god knows how many i dont know that feel the same....put in item loot you will remove it that or you will end up blaming the low population on lack of interest in pvp rather than taking the blame for thinking you know everything about everything

personally i think u and ur buddies know that u wont be able to use ur acks, so you are scared of getting pwnt and losing ur gearz.... i dont understand it, whats not to like about stealing ones items. I guess you guys arent as pro as me.

Freez

[Harrison]

Illiterate inbreds trying to assert that they're pro.

Fucking rofl.

[Bardalicious]

Originally Posted by Harrison [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Illiterate inbreds trying to assert that they're pro.

Fucking rofl.

pro item loot > whiny bitch VZTZ crew any day

I'm seriously disappointed by how many "omg it will hurt the population but I AM TOTALLY FINE WITH IT *wink wink*" excuses I've seen. You can't hail yourself as a red player with this bluebie, pixel-loving mentality.

Seems like some of you have become a bit too coddled in your carbon-copied VZTZ guilds and groups on every box that you're afraid of actual competition and danger in PVP. If I were a griefing, yellow-text loving faggot, I suppose I'd probably be afraid of retribution as well. Grow some testicular fortitude, bitches.

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Bardalicious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm seriously disappointed by how many "omg it will hurt the population but I AM TOTALLY FINE WITH IT *wink wink*" excuses I've seen. You can't hail yourself as a red player with this bluebie, pixel-loving mentality.

It's about converting the blues. Item loot won't affect a red player's decision in the least.

[tarni]

any one give a beer ?

[runlvlzero]

Originally Posted by Tamiah2011 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I enjoy the risk factor and Ive had some really nice items ganked off me before.It make the game much harder which I liked and keeps the big mouths in check.If your hardcore pvp you have much more fun being a wanted man lol.

Ya I'm in favor of high risk if I ever came back to play on a red server, but its a pain in the ass for anyone without a dedicated EQ playtime schedule, and discourages newbs.

But EQ is the only game that ever made itemloot work... that I have played and it wasn't as bad as people make it out to be, forces you to not play alone.

[azeth]

to preface: In ~7 years total of playing EQ/P99 combined I've dueled twice.

Just a guess, but given melee are item dependent and casters are mana dependent, i'm going to go ahead and say that's why.

[runlvlzero]

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

to preface: In ~7 years total of playing EQ/P99 combined I've dueled twice.

Just a guess, but given melee are item dependent and casters are mana dependent, i'm going to go ahead and say that's why.

This can actually be balanced out independent of whether there is item loot or not by adjusting melee dmg or spell dmg accordingly. Honestly - as far as resists are concerned they aren't good to change tooo much... casters will always be strong then melee, until the melee gets buffed by shamans, good resists, and a healer, and some skill in game =)