will exp on r99 be like p1999

[eastadam55]

omg macken just go away no one wants you here even the devs don't like you.

[Yukahwa]

I agree.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Macken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So all these dumb oppresive rules like no yt, staff-suggested play nice rules etc... are not to protect server population according to nilbog.

Maybe nilbog wants to elaborate?

So while you are convinced there are is nothing to back up the arguement that rules or no yt have any postive effect on population, you sit through meetings keeping your mouth shut about the most important thing effecting the hypothetical new red server?

Play nice rules were classic, YT was not. If they can enforce play nice, go ahead by all means. I think corpse camping should be player enforced given the situation. If a guy won't stop trying to gank you every 10mins? Yeah, punish him. Extreme cases of harassment are another story.

No YT isn't even a rule, it's just not something they want. It prevents much stupidity / revealing player location. (it also isn't classic)

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Sniperfire [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

pvp incentive

Contesting camps/kill stealing etc, settling trash talkers. Don't need YT.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by eastadam55 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol ban him again

Hopefully this trend will continue in enforcing retardation.

[Sniperfire]

just to be clear when we say they dont want do we mean staff or playerbase?

just post polls and go with the players feelings on the given subject

[Nirgon]

And why doesn't the staff want it?

And why are you or the VZTZ crew a good representation of the soon-to-be community on this server?

[notmacken]

Originally Posted by Convict [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You think that means you have a clue about how to run or administer a pvp server? You're a fucking joke dude, just give it up.

The problem you are having as well as some of the staff is:

You think watching someone do something, means you know more about what that person is doing, than the person who is actually doing it.

If Sirken had a clue, he wouldn't have had to be told by the players.

[Sniperfire]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And why doesn't the staff want it?

And why are you or the VZTZ crew a good representation of the soon-to-be community on this server?

i didnt say we were i just said poll it but you cant even let that go by without high 5in gm nuts

[Convict]

Originally Posted by Sniperfire [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

he seems highly confrontational to me also he seems to brush anything said by a tz/vz regular off as if it holds no weight.

alot of you do that here macken is right about most of what hes says he might not say it nicely but hes often right. he is also a legend on eq and doesnt deserve to be shut down every time he opens his mouth cause somone has a personal problem with him. were not shitting on you being blue were not posting in your section to try and change things we are eagerly awaiting a pvp server and we want our ideas heard without being trolled by people who wont make it past the first week

Wow. He is a legend on EQ? Really? You just removed yourself from constructive discussion man, sorry. He is NOT right about most of what he says because he obviously did NOT play EQ PVP on live. His only pvp experience stems from EQEMU pvp which was entirely flawed since its inception. His argument is not valid, and his points are moot. Keep slurping up his man jelly, bro.

Whatever effects certain rules had on vztz are not guaranteed to have the same effect here, if anything it may have the opposite. You starting to understand yet?

As far as Nilbog seemingly being confrontational, no shit! He has to deal with people like Macken who have the intellectual caliber of a toilet seat (Get it? He's getting shit on).